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utee94

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2018, 12:24:07 PM »
In Southern Oregon at the in-laws' house. The turkey day fare will be pretty standard, although they bought smoked turkeys this year so only need to heat them. There was a turkey incident last year :57:


Every family has one of those at some point, near as I can tell.  Makes for a good story years later anyway. :)

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2018, 12:25:15 PM »
 There was a turkey incident last year :57:
Let me guess you invited a bunch a vegans or the Turkey had a shotgun too
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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2018, 12:27:48 PM »
Apple crisp/pie very much depends on the type of apple. 

Last year soon-to-be Mrs. GR and I got some fresh apples down in La Crescent (Apple Capital of Minnesota), and baked an apple crisp with them. It was spectacular, due mostly to the fact that the apple crisp still tasted like apples instead of tasting like sugar. However, for the life of us, we can't remember what type of apples they were. 

One of the guys I tailgate with is bringing his electric smoker over Thursday, and is turkey, a chicken,  sausages and stuffing for supper Thursday night. 

Can you smoke a stuffed turkey?

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2018, 12:31:32 PM »
I don't advise cooking turkey with stuffing in it, no matter how it's cooked.  To get the internal cavity up to the proper temperature to kill the bacteria, you basically have to overcook the rest of the bird.  The dark meat can take it, but this is what tends to dry out the breasts really badly.

Better to cook the turkey, save some of the cooking juices, and introduce those into the dressing (and gravy, obviously).

I don't know much about apples, but I hear Granny Smith are some of the best for cooking, because they don't end up too sweet.  They're almost bitter when you eat them fresh, but lots of folks cook with them.

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2018, 12:32:50 PM »
Hear hear, no stuffing in the bird.


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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2018, 03:59:16 PM »
I don't advise cooking turkey with stuffing in it, no matter how it's cooked.
We've cooked stuffing separately and in the bird about halfway thru pull the stuffing out of the bird and mix it in.But I agree with you whats left in the roasting pan can get mixed into the gravy and stuffing and cooked to 165 deg.
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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2018, 04:02:12 PM »
Hear hear, no stuffing in the bird.


Suppose you don't like Pretzels & Beer or beans in chili
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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2018, 04:36:01 PM »
Have at it, whatever floats your banana peel.

I'm cooking les petite poulet, somehow, no stuffing anywhere.

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2018, 04:51:43 PM »



I tried to talk Cindy into the Hens but she shot back with not cooking for 2-3 days.So I lost that one which is fine because I had Turkey and accoutrements for 3.5 days last season - to stubborn to waste food
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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2018, 04:54:10 PM »
Why introduce the risk of inserting food into the cavity of a bird in which it is carrying Bacteria which could kill you unless you raise the temperature to at least 165.  If you insert aromatics into the bird discard them upon carving. 

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2018, 05:05:49 PM »
Taste and temperature,have a good thermometer we've tried dressing from the cavity just finish it in the oven.Make sure the bird is patted dry,there is a million ways to cook a bird(salt,brine,oil,butter) - go with what works.I've tented the breast meat about half way thru so heat hits the thigh/leg area and cooks even.Pull the bird when the thigh is 165.You can also butterfly them that a friend does but looks like more work
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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2018, 05:12:08 PM »
160°F is a kind of magical temperature for most pathogens.  There are some strange thermophiles that survive  boiling water, but they are, well, strange, and rare.

I used to do a lot of work on composting and when done right (which is rare), the stuff hits 160°F at max T and then cools off again because the stuff dies.

And 165°F adds a Marge N. Overa in case part of the bird isn't at that T.

It's (160°F) also 71°C, which is handy to know if you ever find yourself in the rest of the world.

Our oven is new to me, I've rarely used it, it has convection settings, but I'm just not sure it's at the indicated T.  The wife is redoing the kitchen and we're replacing it with a Bosch inductive stove which should be more reliable.

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2018, 05:20:47 PM »
Unless you didn't thaw the bird right,deep thigh temp of 165 is good.The guy on serious eats(MIT grad) mentioned that repeatedly,going with basting 4X and tenting breast meat at about an hour 20 min - no worries.Be cool to sample what everyone here is making and their methods
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Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2018, 05:37:57 PM »
Well when we deep-fry, we certainly don't stuff the cavity. :)

For BBQ I spatchcock the bird, brine for 24 hours, dry overnight for 12 hours, then BBQ at around 300 over pecan (aka hickory).  Oak is too heavy for fowl, IMO.  Fruit woods like apple are too light for fowl, again IMO.

The dressing is made a day or two ahead of time and never goes into the bird.  It is of course cornbread dressing in this part of the world, although I've had yankee friends that brought oyster dressing and that's pretty tasty too. 


 

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