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Clemson has always been a football school, more of an SEC program like FSU than is UNC.  I was astonished when I went to UNC at how casual they were on football Saturdays.  It's just not a "thing" there as it is at Texas or Ohio State or Florida.

FSU was nothing special before Bowden.  We all know the right coach makes a difference, but at UNC, I think they COULD have an upper limit that is basically "pretty good most years and occasionally very good, but not great".

As you say, FSU was nothing, and then it was something.

The only upper limit at UNC, is whatever their own athletic department places on them. If they don't want to be known as a "football school" then they won't ever be one.

Made grilled tri tip with a creamy peppercorn sauce, "Northwoods Inn" purple cabbage salad, and sous vide corn with cilantro butter.

All delicious, but the sauce didn't quite reduce and thicken as much as I'd like...

Ya I could clearly see that

I THINK Dabo would have a tougher time at UNC than he has had at Clemson.

UNC more or less pretends to be an academic school and above all that, like how football schools create crip classes for players to keep them eligible.

I THINK Dabo would have a tougher time at UNC than he has had at Clemson.

UNC more or less pretends to be an academic school and above all that, like how football schools create crip classes for players to keep them eligible.

yup, just put the football team in the basketball team classes
I don't think it would be much different than Clemson
Plenty of recruits within driving distance

almost SEC SEC SEC  worthy

That porter should work well in your bean soup.

I like to use Sam Adams Chocolate Bock-- it's in their winter mix pack and it's just not very good as a straight beer, but when used in chili, it's excellent.  Since NOBODY drinks them at Christmastime, I always have 4 of them lying around in the back of the fridge throughout the year.

Iowa Breweries doing good work.... 


Pivo Brewery of Calmar and Newton's Gezellig Brewing Company are both medalists in back to back years at the 2020 Great American Beer Festival contest.

Pivo's Decorah Nordic Gruit beat 27 other beers to win a gold medal in this year's contest for historical beer. In 2019 the beer received a silver medal in the came category.

The brewery's Old Balltown Bulleit Bourbon Barrel Aged Salted Caramel Dark Chocolate Brownie Milk Stout won a silver medal in the contest's chocolate beer competition. 53 beers were entered in the category. In 2019, the beer was a gold medalist.

SingleSpeed Brewing Company in Waterloo won a gold medal by beating 88 other beers in the session beer or non-alcoholic beer category for its Tip the Calf session milk stout. It is the brewery's first GABF medal.

Gezellig Brewing Company won a silver medal for its Hugzilla rye hazy double IPA in the rye beer category. 52 beers were entered in the category.

In 2019, the Newton brewery's All The Goodness won a silver medal in the Belgian-Style Fruit Beer category and Hug Deal Gone Sideweiss won a silver in the South German-Style Hefeweizen category.



Gezellig also received several awards and was named the champion brewery at the 2020 San Diego International Beer Competition awards announced earlier this month.

Big Grove Brewery of Iowa City won a bronze medal in the German-style Marzen beer competition for its Oktoberfest. 142 beers were entered in the category. It is the brewery's first GABF medal.

Old Balltown Bulleit Bourbon Barrel Aged Salted Caramel Dark Chocolate Brownie Milk Stout

seems overkill to me, but it's descriptive