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bayareabadger

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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #476 on: October 11, 2020, 11:12:43 AM »
We were talking about coaching hires earlier, and obviously we are only three games in so a lot of things can do a lot of directions, but man did the Arkansas hire look bad when it happened, and man does it look a lot better now.

And the weird part is that it probably shouldn’t have been a good hire but football is just like that sometimes.
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #477 on: October 11, 2020, 11:17:27 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 11, 2020, 11:12:43 AM
We were talking about coaching hires earlier, and obviously we are only three games in so a lot of things can do a lot of directions, but man did the Arkansas hire look bad when it happened, and man does it look a lot better now.

And the weird part is that it probably shouldn’t have been a good hire but football is just like that sometimes.
I've been thinking about that too and think maybe the other way.  Hires tend to be guys who have won something at lower levels or someone who fields a whiz bang offense or defense as a coordinator.  But being a head coach is more about your ability to recruit and organize the team more than what whiz bang plays you bring.  An oline coach who already is already up to speed about organizing guys and if he's a great recruiter...well, there ya go.
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #478 on: October 11, 2020, 11:22:02 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on October 11, 2020, 11:17:27 AM
I've been thinking about that too and think maybe the other way.  Hires tend to be guys who have won something at lower levels or someone who fields a whiz bang offense or defense as a coordinator.  But being a head coach is more about your ability to recruit and organize the team more than what whiz bang plays you bring.  An oline coach who already is already up to speed about organizing guys and if he's a great recruiter...well, there ya go.
Another interesting case comes with PJ at Minnesota. When he was at Western Michigan, he hired good scheme guys and he basically recruited like a lower end Big Ten team. They had a couple of years where they were decent but maybe not as good as the talent they were bringing in and then finally fully out talented the conference.

since he got to Minnesota, he hasn’t really recruited all that well. I think they’ve brought in maybe three 4 stars total. But he has identified and developed super well. So it’s another reminder that you sometimes just don’t know about someone until they actually get the job and are dealing with those circumstances.
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #479 on: October 11, 2020, 11:58:45 AM »
Arkansas has something of a team now, competitive, not bizarrely bad, even with about the same talent.

I saw that at UNC as well, a team that didn't tackle, seemed frail on defense, and now they are ranked pretty high, about the same talent aside from QB.
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #480 on: October 11, 2020, 02:31:01 PM »
So, Clemson looks to be Clemson.  I'm pretty sure Ohio State is at least close to that caliber, the rankings don't show that yet.  UNC is probably a decent team, but Top Five?  Ohio State would be a 14 point favorite over UNC I suspect.

What to say about Alabama?  Can they find a defense somewhere?  That was Ole Miss, and the preceding weeks had shown weakness as well, this is not your standard Bama team.  We're about to find out Saturday evening I think.

Is anyone sold on Oklahoma State?  
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #481 on: October 11, 2020, 02:41:10 PM »
So we had some all-time high score, high total yardage games (non-OT) across a couple conferences yesterday.  Our sample size is small, but in addition to of course this following a general trend to more scoring and yards, what role has CV and the manner at which this season has been assembled played in leading to a growing number of video game box scores?
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #482 on: October 11, 2020, 02:46:45 PM »
I would have thought offenses would have been behind defenses due to COVID stuff.

Not.
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #483 on: October 11, 2020, 08:27:23 PM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on October 11, 2020, 02:41:10 PM
So we had some all-time high score, high total yardage games (non-OT) across a couple conferences yesterday.  Our sample size is small, but in addition to of course this following a general trend to more scoring and yards, what role has CV and the manner at which this season has been assembled played in leading to a growing number of video game box scores?
it's called twelving
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #484 on: October 11, 2020, 09:10:25 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 11, 2020, 02:46:45 PM
I would have thought offenses would have been behind defenses due to COVID stuff.

Not.
Nah, offense is glorofied 7 on 7 now.  The offenses are always ahead of the defenses now, and this has just magnified that.  I thought maybe, due to lack of hitting, you'd see more fumbles due to guys not being ready for real contact.  Not sure if the stats bear that out.
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« Reply #485 on: October 11, 2020, 09:22:18 PM »
defensive players don't hit hard enough to force fumbles

don't get practise time and afraid of ejections 
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #486 on: October 12, 2020, 06:33:18 AM »
When you see SEC scores like last week, you know something has changed.
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #487 on: October 12, 2020, 07:25:31 AM »
Maybe contact in practice is limited?
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« Reply #488 on: October 12, 2020, 09:44:23 AM »
that's my guess

hopefully Frost is paying attention
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #489 on: October 12, 2020, 10:04:35 AM »
Saint Nick thinks Ole Miss might have had Bama's defensive signals.

Kitten denies this, of course.
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