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Cincydawg

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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #154 on: September 30, 2020, 10:21:43 PM »
Okay, list the teams that definitively have more talent than Bama.  Let's gauge how wildly inaccurate I am.
You claimed they have a talent advantage over everyone, now you change your tune.

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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #155 on: September 30, 2020, 10:52:58 PM »
You're reeeeeeeally bored.
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #156 on: October 01, 2020, 06:03:19 AM »
Teams that recruit on the same talent level over the past three years include Clemson, Alabama, Georgia, and Ohio State.  

Neither has a marked advantage in recruited talent.

Alabama I posited has a mental edge over a team like Georgia, not a talent edge.

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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #157 on: October 01, 2020, 07:51:24 AM »
Don't ask me, Cincy's the one claiming I'm wrong. 
He's simply going with the law of averages
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #158 on: October 01, 2020, 07:56:23 AM »
The term "law of averages" is often misapplied in sports, as in "They haven't converted on third down in 12 attempts, so the LoA favors them this time."

Nyet.

I don't even know of a law of averages in reality.

I think Alabama has a mental edge against UGA while both teams recruit similar talent levels.  UGA has recruited slightly better according to 247 of ate.

We all know recruiting is not everything of course, but it tends to put to rest the idea that Bama beats UGA solely on the basis of having superior talent.  And the recent contests have been very close of course, but losing is losing.


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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #159 on: October 01, 2020, 07:57:04 AM »
Thanks,Cliff

"I think Alabama has a mental edge against UGA while both teams recruit similar talent levels.  UGA has recruited slightly better according to 247 of ate."

Just like during the Cooper years at tOSU.Could have suited up Lombardi's Packers in Scarlett & Gray but as soon as a Michigan team - any Michigan team trotted out there Tennessee John had the deer in the headlights look.
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #160 on: October 01, 2020, 08:14:13 AM »
Obviously, when Florida had their almost uninterrupted run of wins against UGA, often it was shear talent, at times it was coaching (SOS), and then it became mental when talent started to equalize.  A team might get ahead and mentally they get tight wondering how they will blow it this time.

Michigan may feel this way about Ohio State IF the talent disparity ever closes.  I don't know if Day is anywhere near as good a game day coach as Spurrier.  He doesn't need to be right now.


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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #161 on: October 01, 2020, 10:36:02 AM »
He's simply going with the law of averages
I don't think it's really a law

more of a rule or ordinance
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #162 on: October 01, 2020, 10:53:17 AM »
What is the law of rules of averages anyway?  Ignorance, that's what it is.

The law of averages is the commonly held belief that a particular outcome or event will over certain periods of time occur at a frequency that is similar to its probability.[1][2] Depending on context or application it can be considered a valid common-sense observation or a misunderstanding of probability. This notion can lead to the gambler's fallacy when one becomes convinced that a particular outcome must come soon simply because it has not occurred recently (e.g. believing that because three consecutive coin flips yielded heads, the next coin flip must be virtually guaranteed to be tails).

As invoked in everyday life, the "law" usually reflects wishful thinking or a poor understanding of statistics rather than any mathematical principle. While there is a real theorem that a random variable will reflect its underlying probability over a very large sample, the law of averages typically assumes that unnatural short-term "balance" must occur.[3] Typical applications also generally assume no bias in the underlying probability distribution, which is frequently at odds with the empirical evidence.[4]


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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #163 on: October 01, 2020, 12:50:45 PM »
Flip a coin ten times
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #164 on: October 01, 2020, 01:02:09 PM »
flip a quarter into a cup of beer ten times
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #165 on: October 01, 2020, 01:34:08 PM »


Take your quarters to the gentleman's club, and make it hail. 

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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #166 on: October 01, 2020, 03:15:17 PM »
flip a quarter into a cup of beer ten times
There are easier way to clean quarters and what are you going to do with that beer then?At least use Bud Fat don't waste a Pabst on such silliness
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Re: Game day SOC.
« Reply #167 on: October 01, 2020, 03:15:56 PM »

Take your quarters to the gentleman's club, and make it hail.
I don't even want to know
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