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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2021, 10:43:13 PM »
The women's sports idea made me cringe - isnt this just going to create a bunch of Anna Kournikovas?  The hot girl on the _____ team gets PAID while being the 7th-best player on her own team.  
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That's going to feel icky.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2021, 10:43:47 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 09, 2021, 10:42:02 PM

So Less Wexner is about to load up the OSU W Sports rosters with aspiring Victoria Secret models?

Nice.
Page rolled over after your post.
We commented on the same idea in VERY different ways.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2021, 11:22:41 PM »
Probably be a lot less time consuming for you to keep track of the few things that we do agree on, instead of pointing out all the things that we disagree on, which could fill up at least a million pages. 
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2021, 02:22:19 AM »
Yeah, it took me a long time to read your post.  Sounding it out, sound-by-sound and all. That's how I read good.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2021, 09:02:25 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 09, 2021, 10:20:10 PM
I am less than convinced that this will change the game all that much.

Schools with lots of money tend to do better than schools without. They have spent a long time finding ways to spend money to explain why their is no extra money. Schools still hold the means of production, and will thusly still make most of the money. Their players are following their hand out example, and will soon learn they're not all that valuable, but just a little valuable in 99 percent of cases. Everyone will get to capitalism.
yup, Johnny Rogers is still making a few bucks from his college football fame.  He's not turned that into a billion over the years.

it will be interesting to see where this goes.

but, I agree, the rich will get richer.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2021, 09:38:29 AM »
Are there any other cities the size of Columbus where the college team is the centerpiece of their sports world? Most cities of that size go all in on pro sports.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2021, 10:19:36 AM »
Atlanta is in one sense, but the allegiances are all over the map of course.  There even are some Tech fans, four of them I think.

Louisville, Raleigh, come to mind as smaller than Columbus but with a college team at the P5 level.  Cincinnati is the opposite.

Memphis has a G5 of course, Houston doesn't count.  Knoxville?  not very large
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2021, 10:35:11 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 10, 2021, 09:38:29 AM
Are there any other cities the size of Columbus where the college team is the centerpiece of their sports world? Most cities of that size go all in on pro sports.
When USC or UCLA are good, then LA perhaps. Still, I think the Dodgers and Lakers are the centerpieces, no matter.

Miami, sort of. The CoCains were more popular than the Dolphins when they were on fire.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2021, 10:43:22 AM »
Austin metro is 2.3M people and there are no pro sports teams, aside from the brand-new MLS soccer team.

UT is the only gig in town.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2021, 10:50:17 AM »
Yeah, Austin is similarly situated.
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2021, 10:57:44 AM »
Salt Lake only has the Jazz but they have two cfb teams to prop up, neither of which are anywhere near Helmet status
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Re: Game Changer / NIL
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2021, 11:06:06 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 10, 2021, 10:50:17 AM
Yeah, Austin is similarly situated.
and, they have the Longhorn Network for advertising dollars/opportunities
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2021, 11:08:21 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 10, 2021, 11:06:06 AM
and, they have the Longhorn Network for advertising dollars/opportunities

ESPN owns the LHN, I don't think it would be any particular advantage with respect to the discussion at hand, which is basically, funneling corporate dollars to college athletes.

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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2021, 11:19:24 AM »
Yeah, I'd say that when I lived in Marietta, it certainly seemed like the Dawgs were a MUCH bigger deal than the Falcons. Maybe that changes when the Falcons are good... 

I can definitely speak to LA. UCLA and USC were the only game in town, football-wise. So when they were good, all of a sudden they were beloved. When they're not, well then nobody cares at all. USC has tiny enrollment so almost nobody has a direct relationship to the school unless you're rich. UCLA is bigger, but it's still a drop in the bucket enrollment-wise. 

Agree with Badge that the Lakers and the Dodgers are bigger draws than either, but of course neither one is football. 

I'd say that's all changed. LA already had a contingent of Chargers fans, will always have a contingent of Raiders fans, and now the Rams are the draw. 

From here forward, if USC is not in the regular national championship discussion, they're not going to move the needle in LA. UCLA IMHO will never be that in football, but might return to that level of prominence in basketball, and that'll be what is necessary to move the needle there. 

LA is a pro town.
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