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Topic: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't

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Cincydawg

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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2022, 03:26:23 PM »
Necessary but not sufficient.
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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2022, 03:31:20 PM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on December 05, 2022, 03:21:10 PM
when this passes as "tradition", well...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxpV3PFRuHQ

No offense to our good friend Gigem, but I find it amusing that the rest of the world is just now finding out how weird and cult-like the ags are.  For decades, outsiders always told me "you just say that because they're a rival."

But the reality is:


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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2022, 03:36:33 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 05, 2022, 03:31:20 PM
No offense to our good friend Gigem, but I find it amusing that the rest of the world is just now finding out how weird and cult-like the ags are.  For decades, outsiders always told me "you just say that because they're a rival."

But the reality is:



they really are a strange bunch
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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2022, 03:44:24 PM »
utee would know better than most
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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2022, 03:45:13 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 05, 2022, 02:48:50 PM
Oregon's 8 spots below their "talent."  LSU is 7 spots below.  Texas is 14 spots below.  Those are significant.  Over half the top 10 in "talent" is achieving on-field results that are at least 7 spots below their "talent level."

Over half the top 10.

Like I said, these stats are proof to me, that something else matters, more than talent.

Are you going to get elite results without elite talent?  It's highly doubtful.

But given similar levels of elite talent, there's another factor that comes in as being much more important.  Seeing as my school is one of the perennial under-achievers, I know first-hand, and I don't have to guess what that other factor is.
For Oregon, LSU, Texas, and Notre Dame you are talking about a difference of one or two games.

I'm not disagreeing with you to the extent that development and coaching matter but underestimate talent at your own peril. Oklahoma (unplanned coaching change) and aTm were the only top-10 talent teams who ended up more than a couple games below where talent would suggest. 
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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2022, 03:55:37 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 05, 2022, 03:26:23 PM
Necessary but not sufficient.

Exactly.

Years ago I used to race sailboats. Some people got overly obsessed with the latest and greatest (and most expensive) gear. A wise old guy said that you didn't need the fastest boat on the Lake to win but you weren't going to win with the slowest.

Same applies here. You don't need Alabama's #1 talent to win the NC but it is HIGHLY unlikely that TCU's talent will be enough. Georgia is the most talented team standing and they have the best chance to win but Ohio State and Michigan have enough talent to win.
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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2022, 04:03:39 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 05, 2022, 03:55:37 PM
Years ago I used to race sailboats. Some people got overly obsessed with the latest and greatest (and most expensive) gear. A wise old guy said that you didn't need the fastest boat on the Lake to win...

So, coaching matters a lot.  Got it. :)

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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2022, 04:08:49 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 05, 2022, 04:03:39 PM
So, coaching matters a lot.  Got it. :)
Nobody said it didn't but talent is:

Quote from: Cincydawg on December 05, 2022, 03:26:23 PM
Necessary but not sufficient.
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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2022, 04:27:35 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 05, 2022, 03:44:24 PM
utee would know better than most

Man, y'all don't know the half of it.  Those goofy stand-up routines they do at their yell practices are the most normal of any of their rituals... err, I mean, traditions.
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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2022, 04:54:21 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 05, 2022, 04:27:35 PM
Man, y'all don't know the half of it.  Those goofy stand-up routines they do at their yell practices are the most normal of any of their rituals... err, I mean, traditions.
One tradition the aggies have is kissing your date every time they score

I always liked that one
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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2022, 05:20:06 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on December 05, 2022, 04:54:21 PM
One tradition the aggies have is kissing your date every time they score

I always liked that one
Agree 100%. Tthat's a good one that I insist on honoring, with my i s c & a aggie wife.
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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2022, 08:44:31 PM »
I've had my fair share of experiencing  Aggieland traditions, three visits to Kyle and a variety of other exposure via wedding, friends and colleagues and even road game Yell Practices.   They have no peer.   I say that all while saying Kyle Field is the best stadium in college football.  
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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2022, 08:51:13 PM »
There's always that one coach that winds up with all the five star busts. It used to be Brady Hoke, and it appears to be Jimbo Fisher now. 
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Re: For those who think recruiting doesn't matter or 5* aren't
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2022, 08:54:40 PM »
Is he getting trolled by 24/7,Rivals,Scout,Max Preps?
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