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OrangeAfroMan

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« Reply #14 on: Today at 11:36:30 AM »
Damn, it's snowing in here.
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« Reply #15 on: Today at 11:40:29 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on Today at 11:35:16 AM
Sorry for fitting right in with the rest of you. 
This website could be called logicalfallacy.com, ffs.
Actually most folks on this message board make honest attempts at legitimate debate.  You specifically are notorious for invoking logical fallacies.

And every time somone points it out, you counter with yet another logical fallacy.  This particular one was tu quoque, and also mind projection and red herring. 


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« Reply #16 on: Today at 11:52:54 AM »
Yeah, we must be seeing entirely different posts here.  
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« Reply #17 on: Today at 11:58:18 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on Today at 11:10:12 AM
Yep.  Yet my "well, back to 4 years of apathy" about soccer comment was questioned, lol.
This poll and this result DURING the World Cup is supposed to be revealing.
Thank you for the reveal.
Unlike some of you, my team has never won the NC. As a CFB fan, if they had, I'd *still* probably take an NC before the USMNT winning the WC. But given that Purdue has never won it (and now Indiana--eewwwww!--has), it's not even close. OF COURSE I'd take my own personal team winning an NC over a US WC win.

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on Today at 11:35:16 AM
Sorry for fitting right in with the rest of you. 
This website could be called logicalfallacy.com, ffs.
You're on a CFB board asking CFB fans whether they prefer not only CFB to WC, but whether they prefer THEIR OWN TEAM winning the NC over their national soccer team winning a sport that isn't the sport that they've self-selected to be on a message board for. 

That's a logical fallacy called hasty generalization... You're trying to extrapolate from a poll of an unrepresentative sample to prove a point about "the masses" of an entire nation. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faulty_generalization#Hasty_generalization
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« Reply #18 on: Today at 11:59:00 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on Today at 11:26:28 AM
You suggested people only care about the World Cup based on how the USMNT does. Everyone said you were wrong and the poll says you are wrong. So that's the reveal.
outside a very few people I know, no one cares about the world cup.  I know not statistical.  In fact the only person I know who even knows anything about the various soccer teams is my son-in-law and he happens to be Mexican and I think it matters what ethnicity a person who lives in the US when it comes to soccer. 

They only world cup match that I have seen anything was last Sunday and only because my son-in-law was over and I had it on the TV for him. 
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« Reply #19 on: Today at 12:00:53 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on Today at 11:52:54 AM
Yeah, we must be seeing entirely different posts here. 
You see what you want to see, that much has been clear for years.

Anyway, you started this silly discussion as some weird attempt at a gotcha.  Why? 

Nobody at all was asserting that the denizens of a college football message board, valued soccer more than college football.



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« Reply #20 on: Today at 12:03:57 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on Today at 11:34:21 AM
Hmmm.

Here we are with another statistical flounder.
How many people is the "everyone" in your post?
And we have the viewership of the US-Belgium game posted here, right? 
Let's see the Belgium-Spain numbers, shall we?

Then you can talk to me about being wrong.
THE MASSES (you know, the tens of millions) will care much, MUCH less about the WC going forward.  Not everyone.  Not small samples of 8 people.  Not the statistically insignificant sample that so many here obsess over and dwell on.
The tens of millions.

Let's see the numbers from the next round.  They should be higher, no?  With them being one step closer to the WC title. 
Let's wait and see. 
Yes, I expect Belgium-Spain to be lower viewership than US-Belgium.

Yes, I believe that is due to the fact that the US is no longer in the tournament.

Yes, this is due to the fact that the US is not a historically-strong soccer viewership nation, but as a nation of 340M people, the inclusion of American "casual fans" who are just watching b/c of the US' involvement--and I'm one of them--will create a viewership spike. 

This is 100% expected. That doesn't mean that the US doesn't have real soccer fans, and/or that those fans will stop watching. 

What's your point? 
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« Reply #21 on: Today at 12:07:03 PM »
I'm still watching. 

They got me hooked in, with the intensity, strategy, sheer athleticism and the spirit of the fans.
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« Reply #22 on: Today at 12:53:23 PM »
The ratings for Mexico-England played in Mexico City on Sunday were revealed on Wednesday. Per Fox Sports, England's dramatic 3-2 win drew 21,742,000 viewers on its network. Combined with 23.1 million U.S. viewers on Telemundo, that adds up to roughly 44.8 million viewers.

https://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/article/world-cup-blowout-england-mexico-tv-ratings-in-us-top-those-of-usa-belgium-rival-nfl-playoffs-025308679.html?guccounter=1
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« Reply #23 on: Today at 12:58:10 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on Today at 12:07:03 PM
I'm still watching.

They got me hooked in, with the intensity, strategy, sheer athleticism and the spirit of the fans.

Soccer's fun to watch. I really enjoy it.  It's not a competition with college football, and it's certainly possible to like more than one sport at a time.

You're also allowed to like both comedy movies, AND dramas!  You can like both rock music, AND country.  You can like both cake, AND pie!  This is all permissible and even common!

Mind-blowing for some I suppose.
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« Reply #24 on: Today at 01:07:58 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on Today at 11:34:21 AM
Hmmm.

Here we are with another statistical flounder.
How many people is the "everyone" in your post?
And we have the viewership of the US-Belgium game posted here, right? 
Let's see the Belgium-Spain numbers, shall we?

Then you can talk to me about being wrong.
THE MASSES (you know, the tens of millions) will care much, MUCH less about the WC going forward.  Not everyone.  Not small samples of 8 people.  Not the statistically insignificant sample that so many here obsess over and dwell on.
The tens of millions.

Let's see the numbers from the next round.  They should be higher, no?  With them being one step closer to the WC title. 
Let's wait and see. 
What number qualifies as apathetic? Lower than an average NFL game? NBA game? MLB game?
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« Reply #25 on: Today at 01:09:17 PM »
NBA viewership has tanked, as I understand it.
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