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847badgerfan

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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2022, 11:17:37 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 28, 2022, 10:36:56 AM
especially if the Cyclones make it two in a row
How about what could happen when Iowa visits Purdue next week?
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2022, 11:37:32 AM »
Kirk might encourage PArker to put the clamps on a certain WR
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2022, 12:00:01 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 28, 2022, 11:17:37 AM
How about what could happen when Iowa visits Purdue next week?
Easy to predict:
  • When Purdue has the ball it will look like an NFL offense against an NFL defense. 
  • When Iowa has the ball it will look like a Pee-wee offense against a Pee-wee defense. 

Purdue probably wins because while all four of the above comparisons are somewhat exaggerated the comparison for Purdue's defense is the most exaggerated. 

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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2022, 01:41:34 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 28, 2022, 11:17:37 AM
How about what could happen when Iowa visits Purdue next week?
Hmmm...
It will be the battle of the offensive coordinators named Brian that are closely related to the head coach.
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2022, 02:44:14 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on October 28, 2022, 12:00:01 PM
Easy to predict:
  • When Purdue has the ball it will look like an NFL offense against an NFL defense.
  • When Iowa has the ball it will look like a Pee-wee offense against a Pee-wee defense.

Purdue probably wins because while all four of the above comparisons are somewhat exaggerated the comparison for Purdue's defense is the most exaggerated.


Per SP+, Purdue's offense (#30) and defense (#43) aren't that different
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2022, 03:27:36 PM »
Quote from: ELA on October 28, 2022, 02:44:14 PM
Per SP+, Purdue's offense (#30) and defense (#43) aren't that different
I definitely exaggerated especially wrt Purdue. I was mostly thinking of the stark difference between Iowa's CFP level defense and their not-even-FCS level offense. 
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2022, 12:01:56 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on October 28, 2022, 09:22:40 AM

The OL got worse.  Last year's starting center was drafted in the 1st round of NFL draft.  This year's OL has no juniors or seniors starting.
Actually, there is one junior starting. Here is this week's O-Line depth chart:
LT: Mason Richman (6-6, 308), RS sophomore;  Jack Plumb (6-7, 297), RS senior
LG: Nick DeJong (6-6, 300), RS junior, Tyler Elsbury (6-5, 308), RS sophomore;
C: Logan Jones (6-3, 283), RS sophomore; Mike Myslinski (6-3, 287), RS freshman
RG: Beau Stephens (6-6, 307), RS freshman; Matt Fagan (6-5, 296), RS senior
RT: Connor Colby (6-6,  308), sophomore; Jack Plumb (6-7, 297), RS senior
Sophomores Connor Colby, and Mason Richman are two-year starters. Junior Nick DeJong is a two-year starter. Coming into the 2022 season, I expected the line to improve because Colby, Richman, and DeJong had a year of experience, and Logan Jones was well-regarded at center.
When he was a player, and Brian Ferentz was injured unable to play, it seemed the O-Line performed much worse. I thought he would have a career coaching O-Lines.
Former Colo. State O-Coordinator and past Wisconsin QB, and pas Wisconsin QB coach Jon Budmayr serves as Analyst on the staff. Iowa would do better (a) moving the O-Line coach to Analyst, (b) moving Brian Ferentz to O-Line coach, and (c) moving Jon Budmayr to O-Coordinator/QB coach. Perhaps not a problem solved, but an improvement made.


Quote from: Abba on October 27, 2022, 09:48:26 AM

I thought the issue with Brian is more so that he is taking on the role of QB coach also.  He's not a great OC, but what is he doing coaching QBs?  Has he been doing both since 2017, or is coaching QBs more recent?
This is the 1st year Brian Ferentz was QB coach. He has been tight ends coach, RB coach and now QB coach at Iowa. From Wikipedia:
On his year as a running backs coach, Ferentz stated in 2020 during a coaching clinic "I'm like the worst running back coach in America. I was a shitty running back coach... I did it for a year, and I quit. It was too hard. I was no good at it."[20] After taking over as quarterbacks coach in spring 2022, Ferentz told media "man, I got a lot to learn."[21]

Quote from: LittlePig on October 28, 2022, 09:10:40 AM

Kirk Ferentz is the ultimate survivor.  He manages to make it through mini-scandals that would get other coaches fired.  But to his credit, he learns and adjusts to each mini-scandal

2006-2007 : problems with several Iowa football players getting arrested.  Ferentz adjusts by changing the type of player that Iowa recruits.  Downside of this approach is it limits the number of players available to recruit. This was not a mini-scandal. It was really bad. Very serious offenses were alleged, but I don't think any were convicted of very serious offenses. Some players were shown the door, and this came out of the greatest recruiting class Iowa either ever had, or had ever had since the 1950s when Alex Karras and his classmates were brought in.

2011:  13 Iowa players are sent to the hospital after an extreme off-season work-out.  The players had rhabdomyolysis, a stress-induced syndrome that can damage cells and cause kidney damage and even failure in severe cases.  This became known as the rhabdo scandal.  Ferentz adjusts by changing Iowa's workout routine and nobody gets fired. This was not a mini-scandal but somehow Kirk Ferentz shook this off too, and in the process created a new award for assistant coaches.: "Three months after the rhabdomyolysis incident, Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz named Doyle the recipient of the team’s inaugural assistant coach of the year award. [After 2020]  Doyle was the only staff member removed from the program as a result of allegations from former players. Chris Doyle, former Iowa strength coach accused of racism and bullying, hired by Jacksonville Jaguars - The Daily Iowan

2020 :  several ex-Iowa players accuse the Iowa coaching staff of racism.  Long time strength coach Chris Doyle is fired. Other Iowa assistants including Brian Ferentz are fingered, but survive.  Iowa adjusts by forming a new diversity panel made up of current and former Iowa players.  In Jan 2022 Kirk Ferentz decides on his own he will disolve the diversity group, saying he will replace it with something better.






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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2022, 07:48:22 AM »
Yes,  ultimately Urban Meyer tried to hire former Iowa strength coach Chris Doyle as his strength coach for the  Jacksonville Jaguars.  But that ended up blowing up for Meyer, and the Doyle hiring was reversed after 1 day.

Doyle is now considered toxic and unhirable.  The racism charges against Doyle are not going away as easily as first thought.

Ultimately I believe although the racism charges against Iowa have died down,  it still kind of lingers as an issue. Petty lawsuits are still pending.  Another reason Brian Ferentz will probably never be given the head coaching job at Iowa.

Although the logical choice if Iowa was going to hire a head coach from its own staff would be DC Phil Parker,  another good choice might be special teams coach LeVar Woods.  There are a lot of signs that Woods would make a good head coach, and to be honest,  he would be the best face for the program if Iowa wanted to make the racism charges go away for good.
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2022, 08:21:09 AM »
I'm guessing Iowa's offense will look not horrible today vs the terrible Cat defense and things will die down for a week
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2022, 09:23:06 AM »
Either that, or Fitzgerald dunks on BF all day. 
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2022, 09:42:36 AM »
if Capt Kirk is so set on handing head duties to Brian someday........ why in the "F" doesn't he put him in a position to at least look good?

give him some help on the offensive side or just make him assistant head coach with no real duties or something

anything!
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2022, 09:55:59 AM »
If Iowa let's the spoils of Kirk's loins take the head set then they deserve what they get
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2022, 09:49:21 PM »
Well after Iowa scores 33 points against NW, I guess Kirk Ferentz can now tell all of us to just STFU. 

Spencer Petras started at QB and played the whole game, going 21-30, 220 yards, 1TD, no int.  Looks like it's going to be Petras the rest of the way.
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2022, 11:02:43 PM »
yup, things will die down for a week
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