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Topic: Ferentz's bitter remarks

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LittlePig

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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2022, 09:10:40 AM »
Kirk Ferentz is the ultimate survivor.  He manages to make it through mini-scandals that would get other coaches fired.  But to his credit, he learns and adjusts to each mini-scandal

2006-2007 : problems with several Iowa football players getting arrested.  Ferentz adjusts by changing the type of player that Iowa recruits.  Downside of this approach is it limits the number of players available to recruit.

2011:  13 Iowa players are sent to the hospital after an extreme off-season work-out.  The players had rhabdomyolysis, a stress-induced syndrome that can damage cells and cause kidney damage and even failure in severe cases.  This became known as the rhabdo scandal.  Ferentz adjusts by changing Iowa's workout routine and nobody gets fired.

2020 :  several ex-Iowa players accuse the Iowa coaching staff of racism.  Long time strength coach Chris Doyle is fired. Other Iowa assistants including Brian Ferentz are fingered, but survive.  Iowa adjusts by forming a new diversity panel made up of current and former Iowa players.  In Jan 2022 Kirk Ferentz decides on his own he will disolve the diversity group, saying he will replace it with something better.

2022:  Iowa is accused of nepotism when Kirk Ferentz refuses to consider firing his son Brian Ferentz as the OC and QB coach.  Ferentz adusts by....


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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2022, 09:15:55 AM »
What's changed since last year when Iowa went 10-2 and won the West?
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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2022, 09:22:40 AM »
What's changed since last year when Iowa went 10-2 and won the West?
The OL got worse.  Last year's starting center was drafted in the 1st round of NFL draft.  This year's OL has no juniors or seniors starting.
The WR's got worse.  Iowa lost 2 WR's, including Charlie Jones, to the transfer portal.   Then lost its 2 starting WR's to injury.
The schedule got worse. Instead of Ind, MD, PSU,  Iowa got Rut, Mich and OSU as crossovers.
Long time Iowa assistant Ken O'Keefe retired.  He was Iowa OC from 1999 to 2011, then QB coach from 2017 to 2021.
Brian Ferentz was made the new QB coach.
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2022, 09:34:31 AM »
WRs got worse cause the #1 option transferred to Purdue
cause he could see the offense wasn't a good fit
maybe he wasn't impressed with the pick for the QB coach
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« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2022, 09:35:21 AM »
I am going to give Kirk Ferentz the benefit of the doubt here.  I believe his apology was sincere in the the sense that he regrets saying it and it sets a bad example for his players.

I have done the same thing and I sure eveverybody has too.  Get mad and say things I regret and apologize the next day after thinking about it.  It does not matter if I was wrong or right.  I could have handled it better. 
Good Post but you haven't been the highest paid employee of the State for two decades.Ferentz simply isn't coming clean about the problem IMHO,apology or not.That's okay because if he doesn't cut Junior loose it'll benefit the opposition not only on the field but in recruiting
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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2022, 09:41:48 AM »
WRs got worse cause the #1 option transferred to Purdue
cause he could see the offense wasn't a good fit
maybe he wasn't impressed with the pick for the QB coach
Charlie Jones WR stats

3 years at Iowa. - 21 catches, 3 TD's

8 games at Purdue - 72 catches,  9 TD's

I would say he made the right call transferring to Purdue.

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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2022, 09:44:05 AM »
I like to give folks the benefit of the doubt as well.
Perhaps Kirk was sincere in some sense.  I'll give him that.

He certainly didn't say the statement out loud.  Especially with a microphone.
Seems like the statement was aimed at the local press.
I doubt he sent this note to the writer from Cleveland, columnist Doug Lesmerises.

“I had hoped to join the zoom call this morning, but practice lasted longer than anticipated. I wanted to take a moment to apologize for my comments during the news conference yesterday. I should not have been dismissive of one of your colleagues
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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2022, 10:11:09 AM »
Charlie Jones WR stats

3 years at Iowa. - 21 catches, 3 TD's

8 games at Purdue - 72 catches,  9 TD's

I would say he made the right call transferring to Purdue.
Jeez. 
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« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2022, 10:13:22 AM »
see Badge,

Things could be much worser in Madison
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« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2022, 10:14:56 AM »
Kirk Ferentz is the ultimate survivor.  He manages to make it through mini-scandals that would get other coaches fired.  But to his credit, he learns and adjusts to each mini-scandal

agreed, but there comes a time when the old dog is just to tired to fight any longer
too tired to learn new tricks, like the portal and NIL
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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2022, 10:15:37 AM »
That Jones kid played very well in Madison last week, albeit too little too late. Still, I'd take him in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2022, 10:16:28 AM »
agreed, but there comes a time when the old dog is just to tired to fight any longer
too tired to learn new tricks, like the portal and NIL
This is part of why CPC is not on the sidelines anymore.
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« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2022, 10:33:29 AM »
Charlie Jones WR stats

3 years at Iowa. - 21 catches, 3 TD's

8 games at Purdue - 72 catches,  9 TD's

I would say he made the right call transferring to Purdue.
Pretty sure you're not the only Fan to catch this,quite damning.If Capt Kirk doesn't make the switch before next season then I'm guessing the pitchforks/torches will be coming out in I.C.
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« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2022, 10:36:56 AM »
especially if the Cyclones make it two in a row
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