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MrNubbz

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Ferentz's bitter remarks
« on: October 26, 2022, 09:13:02 PM »
The following clip by Hawkeye vlog From the Hawkeye of the Storm, does a nice job of distilling the growing controversy involving the Ferentz Family football syndicate. Doug Lesmerises has really gotten under Kirk Ferentz' skin:


https://youtu.be/c9qk_KxXaOY

Damn right it was a bad look from Ferentz with school yard comeback.His presser was nearly as bad as his kids scheme - unlike the regulars Lesmerises had the cajones to say it to his face.And Ferentz was backpeddaling until Doug Lesmerises wasn't there to roast him
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2022, 06:22:49 AM »
So evidently Kirk back tracked and in a prepared statemnet apologized. Prolly realizing the guy was doing his job
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2022, 07:47:59 AM »
He’s right, it could be a lot worse than having. A job. I would like $211k to very pay period with little accountability.
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2022, 09:07:23 AM »
Kirk Ferentz is 181-114 as Iowa HC. He’s been the longest tenured coach in college football since 2017 and this is his 24th season at Iowa.

I’m thinking Ferentz’s plan is to reach 200 total victories before retiring. Then the plan was to hand the reigns over to his son who by all accounts is in over his head.

The Hawkeyes have finished the past 4 seasons ranked in the AP Top 25. With Illinois, Purdue, and Minnesota becoming tougher outs over the past few years, those 200 wins are suddenly harder to come by.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2022, 09:14:57 AM »
notice the liked tweet...dude is an iowa asst coach. his father in law happens to be....kirk ferentz. lol. kirk really should just step down. time for some new blood there.


https://twitter.com/FromTheHawkeye/status/1585105524856475648?s=20&t=trjcyRddBG4f729Nx24BHw
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2022, 09:38:13 AM »
As much as I hate Brian Ferentz being the OC and QB coach, which is a terrible idea, I have to stick up for Kirk Ferentz somewhat.  This is Iowa's record since Brian Ferentz took over as OC in 2017

2017:  8-5
2018.  9-4
2019.  10-3
2020.  6-2
2021.  10-4 (west division champs)
2022.  3-4

Overall  46-20

Iowa's offense has never been great, but that's Iowa's style.  It's a very boring style (if you like TD's scored).  So it feels like to Kirk Ferentz that the press is unfairly pouncing on Brian in a down year. 

But ultimately I feel Kirk is missing the point.  Iowa's offense is not just bad this year, it's historically bad, to the point that the whole country is laughing at Iowa.  No WR wants to come to Iowa now.  The only way to fix it is to fire Brian Ferentz as OC.  Since Kirk will never fire Brian, the program is stuck until Kirk retires.
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2022, 09:47:09 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on October 27, 2022, 09:14:57 AM
notice the liked tweet...dude is an iowa asst coach. his father in law happens to be....kirk ferentz. lol. kirk really should just step down. time for some new blood there.


https://twitter.com/FromTheHawkeye/status/1585105524856475648?s=20&t=trjcyRddBG4f729Nx24BHw
typically mild mannered and extremely respectful?

that's an exaggeration, especially the past 4 or 5 years
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2022, 09:48:26 AM »
I thought the issue with Brian is more so that he is taking on the role of QB coach also.  He's not a great OC, but what is he doing coaching QBs?  Has he been doing both since 2017, or is coaching QBs more recent?
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2022, 10:09:30 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on October 27, 2022, 09:38:13 AM
As much as I hate Brian Ferentz being the OC and QB coach, which is a terrible idea, I have to stick up for Kirk Ferentz somewhat.  This is Iowa's record since Brian Ferentz took over as OC in 2017

2017:  8-5
2018.  9-4
2019.  10-3
2020.  6-2
2021.  10-4 (west division champs)
2022.  3-4

Overall  46-20

Iowa's offense has never been great, but that's Iowa's style.  It's a very boring style (if you like TD's scored).  So it feels like to Kirk Ferentz that the press is unfairly pouncing on Brian in a down year. 

But ultimately I feel Kirk is missing the point.  Iowa's offense is not just bad this year, it's historically bad, to the point that the whole country is laughing at Iowa.  No WR wants to come to Iowa now.  The only way to fix it is to fire Brian Ferentz as OC.  Since Kirk will never fire Brian, the program is stuck until Kirk retires.
wins and losses are the most important stat, obviously
but, fans and media like offense - also with a decent offense it's likely there are even more wins vs fewer losses

2017 - 329 ypg
2018 - 375 ypg
2019 - 366 ypg
2020 - 368 ypg
2021 - 303 ypg
2022 - 227 ypg
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the former O-coordinator was relieved because of a bad offense

2013 - 377
2014 - 400
2015 - 386
2016 - 325
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2022, 10:45:49 AM »
Bitter, party of one. Bitter, party of one...
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2022, 11:00:48 AM »
I doubt firing the OC at this time would be the magic bullet that fixes the offense. 
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2022, 11:26:55 AM »
takin away his playcalling and the coaching of the QBs might help a little

demoting him to O-line coach might help the O-line
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2022, 12:25:45 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 27, 2022, 10:09:30 AM

wins and losses are the most important stat, obviously
but, fans and media like offense - also with a decent offense it's likely there are even more wins vs fewer losses
the former O-coordinator was relieved because of a bad offense
You make a good point the former O.C. had a statistically higher YPG than BF.Last week both defenses scored more points than BF's offense.That's problematic from a recruiting P.O.V. I'm guessin' the O.C. has a big hand with recruiting,so what prospect would go there right now with seemingly a dearth in both talent and scheme? Unless it locals or lower rated kids looking for opportunity - that could be coached up but it doesn't appear they have the guy to do that.
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Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2022, 12:49:23 PM »
offensive players in the program are hitting the portal - see Purdue
Ferentz family not using the portal to bring in offensive players to fill gaps

can't imagine new recruits aren't aware or being made aware of the many issues with Brian, including the local and national media calling for his firing
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