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Topic: Federal Debt and Deficit

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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #169 on: September 21, 2024, 08:29:16 AM »
All the talk is fine and dandy, but I personally like checking to see if anyone has a realistic "plan" anywhere, and nobody does.

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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #170 on: September 21, 2024, 09:12:24 AM »
seems all the big problems are too big to be solved
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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #171 on: September 21, 2024, 09:14:57 AM »
the money hasn't hooked anyone up yet

nothing released in Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Minnesooota, Wisconsin, Montana, Colorado, or KAnsas yet

not sure about all other states, but...........
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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #172 on: September 21, 2024, 09:18:21 AM »
seems all the big problems are too big to be solved
They could in theory be solved, or at least "addressed" in some fashion, but not without way way way more pain than the voters would tolerate.  So, we get nice sounding verbiage instead.

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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #173 on: September 21, 2024, 09:38:21 AM »
very poor leadership by politicians
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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #174 on: September 21, 2024, 09:41:12 AM »
Nearly all politicians want first to be reelected.  That means saying things that attract voters, and avoiding things that do the reverse.  "We" elect'em.  They all promise something glorious if only we reelected them, and disaster if their opponent wins.

It's an inherent System flaw.

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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #175 on: September 21, 2024, 09:44:35 AM »
selfishness is very poor leadership
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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #176 on: September 21, 2024, 09:48:50 AM »
If some real leader ran against a real politician, he'd lose almost without exception.

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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #177 on: September 21, 2024, 10:25:10 AM »
I'm not certain of that

perhaps I'm just hopeful
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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #178 on: September 21, 2024, 05:04:41 PM »
"Politician" shouldn't be a career.  It should be a temporary duty from your career.  It's not complicated.
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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #179 on: September 21, 2024, 05:08:48 PM »
"Politician" shouldn't be a career.  It should be a temporary duty from your career.  It's not complicated.
Well, I might disagree. If you're responsible for making the laws that govern the lives of 340M people, it would actually make a lot of sense for that to be a viable career. That we should really have hardcore experts in that job. 

Of course, we don't have experts. We have politicians. So we're still screwed.

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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #180 on: September 21, 2024, 05:16:13 PM »
You can be a paid intern/protege under your predecessor before you serve your time, for a year or however long is deemed appropriate.
We could have knowledgeable people before they're tabbed for gov't service, if we made it a priority.

If if if.

The need/want to be re-elected IS a gigantic problem.  Simply removing that would automatically help with things.  Also, lawmakers' lives are largely literally sitting in a cubicle across from the Capitol building working the phone for constant donations.  It would eliminate the need for that and they could actually focus on lawmaking.

Looking for ways to change things for the better is more productive than 'nuh-uh-ing' everything.  I'm very guilty of that one.  But when it comes to the government and simple, sound, logical improvements, I don't find it difficult at all.
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Re: Federal Debt and Deficit
« Reply #181 on: September 21, 2024, 05:19:54 PM »
I find hand waving about how things SHOULD BE to be nonproductive.   

 

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