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The flip flop is on both sides. 

I'd rather you just say thank you, and be on your way.

Great Points and astute observations, thank you Col. Nathan R. Jessep

would youse smart fellas hurry up and resolve this Fed Debt and Deficit issue already

F Illinois and the rest of those states. People vote for that shit, and they can live with it.

It gave the public the belief that we were forward-thinking and protecting Social Security for the future, by putting that money in the SSTF. But since that money was being immediately spent and replaced by treasury bills, it meant that all we were doing was kicking the can down the road to be picked up by future taxpayers / future debt.

It was genius... And deceptive as fck.

Politically, when R's took Congress (both houses) in the 1994 elections then Clinton held the WH you had a situation where they were fighting and not wanting each other to get credit for any major new initiatives so basically not much happened and as it turns out, that is cheap. 

I do remember welfare reform and shrinking of the military at that time, but as we've stated the # 1 cause of the debts and deficits are entitlements. Were the entitlements of the era much smaller than they are today?  And if so, was the federal government able to just cut discretionary spending and get things under control? 

Or was it a mixture of the economy being supercharged, bringing in more taxes, at the same time the gov't made modest cuts and these factors combined to create the surplus?  I do remember that after W got elected, it didn't take long at all to start running deficits again.  Blame 9/11 or the GWT (Global War on Terror), but it seems like we hit GO and never looked back. 

See I do not understand all of this I do understand the illicit government grifting starts by seemingly bending me over every April like Ned Beatty in Deliverance. How they spin, disperse, shuffle all of this in their parlor tricks and confidence games is unfathomable to anyone in the middle class who has had to live within their means, earn their own way and work into their 60's. It appears their political skills are to deceive vulnerable believers taking to the tune of hundreds of millions/billions of dollars. How these stewards of our savings siphon all this off to the reprobates in the defense industry, umbrellas for government employees and the beneficences at the border that neither earned, needed or deserved this haul is not only unrepresentative but in fact deviant

Bead Program

I'm hoping to make some money - next year

so many strings attached that many service providers are not willing to take the money

and yes, it takes years for this stuff to trickle down to the states to be distributed

it's because the Fed government knows nothing about what they are doing

they have good intentions but, .......... they are ignorant and don't know who to trust with the money

If you open it up and actually read the letter from the Senators, it will shed some light on the how and why.

Feels made up. Which given the timing, probably is.

Feels made up. Which given the timing, probably is.

It's real. I checked it out before I posted it.

It's real. I checked it out before I posted it.

I mean their reasoning, which after looking into it a bit, seems like mostly fluff.