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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #84 on: August 15, 2019, 05:59:54 PM »
My sarcasm doesn't always translate into English.
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #85 on: August 15, 2019, 06:05:20 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 15, 2019, 03:53:35 PM
yeah, I think you're right. Jerry's stats are just absolutely insane. He's so far ahead of the #2 WR in every statistical category that it's a joke. He's also got 3 Super Bowl rings, and he put up huge numbers in all 3 of those games. He was a huge factor in why the 49ers won those Super Bowls.

Randy Moss was clearly the most talented WR that has ever played the game of football. He is also clearly the most electrifying WR that's ever played the game of football. I have been fighting with ths one. It is a lot harder to judge than I had previously stated.

No question.  It's unlikely that anyone will ever touch his total yardage or touchdown records.  But he also played for 20 years.  14 seasons of 1,000 receiving yards.  Just insane.  If Larry Fitzgerald makes it to 20 years in the league, he might be able to break Rice's total reception record of 1,549.  Fitz has 1,303 so it's certainly a possibility.  But he's not putting up another 6,600 or so yards. 
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #86 on: August 15, 2019, 06:11:03 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 15, 2019, 05:59:54 PM
My sarcasm doesn't always translate into English.

I didn't take your comment 100% seriously.  But it's a worth while note.  I do believe that Emmitt Smith is more highly regarded than he would have been on a different team.  Without that offensive line, I don't think he would have posted close to the numbers that he did.
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #87 on: August 15, 2019, 06:47:05 PM »
Barry Sanders was running behind patchwork lines as I recall.

I'm hopeful the Dawg OL can road grade the lesser teams and open up large holes for their RBs, who I think are pretty capable also.  There is a lot of rumor they will be passing more this year, at least against good teams.
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #88 on: August 16, 2019, 12:04:23 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 15, 2019, 06:47:05 PM
Barry Sanders was running behind patchwork lines as I recall.

I'm hopeful the Dawg OL can road grade the lesser teams and open up large holes for their RBs, who I think are pretty capable also.  There is a lot of rumor they will be passing more this year, at least against good teams.
Lomas Brown and Kevin Glover were excellent players. Detroit got rid of both of those guys a little early- which pissed Barry off and is honestly part of the reason he retired with more left in the tank. Word is he was livid when Glover was let go. 

Two guys don’t make an OL however. Rest of those OL players were mostly sorry as hell for the most part. And the QB situation was atrocious. Poor Barry. 
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« Reply #89 on: August 16, 2019, 12:07:03 AM »
It's interesting how people draw "couldn't" from "didn't".  
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #90 on: August 16, 2019, 12:08:10 AM »
If you go by the stats, Jerry Rice is the best player in NFL history, and it'd be Rice or Gretzky for best overall pro athlete.  The separation between him and the #2 guy is the widest gap at any position, easily.
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #91 on: August 16, 2019, 10:57:42 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 16, 2019, 12:08:10 AM
If you go by the stats, Jerry Rice is the best player in NFL history, and it'd be Rice or Gretzky for best overall pro athlete.  The separation between him and the #2 guy is the widest gap at any position, easily.
I could give him the title of best player ever that’s not a QB. I wouldn’t argue with someone if they wanted to say that. He’s got a great case. 

To me though the best player ever has to be a QB. Most important position in the entire game, has the most responsibility of any individual player and that one position decides whether you win or lose- especially now more than ever. 
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #92 on: August 16, 2019, 12:40:59 PM »
most important and responsible obviously, but also not the most athletic

QBs for the most part take the snap and stand around before and after getting rid of the ball to a playmaker like Jerry Rice
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #93 on: August 16, 2019, 01:47:15 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 16, 2019, 10:57:42 AM
I could give him the title of best player ever that’s not a QB. I wouldn’t argue with someone if they wanted to say that. He’s got a great case.

To me though the best player ever has to be a QB. Most important position in the entire game, has the most responsibility of any individual player and that one position decides whether you win or lose- especially now more than ever.
I think this is a little short-sighted and ignores the bulk of football history.  It is certainly true in the modern-day NFL, but that's it.  
Was the pulling guard any less important or hold any less responsibility for the run-heavy 70s teams?  In the QB-centric modern day, is the left tackle's burden any less than the guy he's protecting?

The truly best player of all time (of which we'll never be able to quantify accurately) is as likely to have been a defensive tackle or safety or tight end as a QB.  
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #94 on: August 17, 2019, 01:34:24 AM »
My response to the subject. I would have guessed Tim Dwight, Tavian Banks, or Willie Guy.  This website says Bob Sanders who was a 2* recruit who became AP NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 2007 had the fastest Hawkeye 40-yard dash.

https://saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/fastest-b1g-40-times/
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #95 on: August 17, 2019, 09:42:17 AM »
Willie Guy was fast

Dwight was quick and shifty
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #96 on: August 17, 2019, 09:57:49 AM »
I am amazed at how slow I am today, truly.  I was never a burner of course, but when I played baseball I would steal second and rarely get thrown out.  The catchers of course were not that great.  Today a catcher could walk the ball to second and tag me out unassisted.

Anyway, this thread is not about me, though I'd like it to be.

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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #97 on: August 17, 2019, 10:01:24 AM »
feel free to start a slowest thread

I'll be there with you
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