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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2019, 04:55:00 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 13, 2019, 04:46:50 PM
great post.

Barry Sanders was probably no better than a 4.4 in a straight line. He was definitely fast in a straight line. But nowhere near the fastest guy in a straight line. Deion or Bo or Randy Moss or Darrell Green were a good deal faster than Barry in a straight line.

It was Barry's ability to stop and start and change directions and then accelerate almost instantly to full speed while changing direction that was completely unparalled in the history of the sport. 
10 yard dash
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« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2019, 04:55:47 PM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on August 13, 2019, 04:50:46 PM

julio ran 4.39 at combine, and for a 6'3" 220lb guy, that's moving.

Calvin Johnson might have been the fastest big guy
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« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2019, 05:04:24 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 13, 2019, 04:55:47 PM
Calvin Johnson might have been the fastest big guy
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Calvin was 6'5"+ and 239 at the NFL combine and he ran a 4.35 in the 40. His vertical leap was like 44.5" as well.

Randy Moss was probably the fastest big guy. Randy was 6'4" and 205 ish. Maybe not quite as big as Calvin in terms of body mass. But Randy Moss was the fastest 6'4" guy I think I've ever seen. I don't know what his exact 40 time was. But he was just fast as shit. Randy is right up there with the fastest players ever period.
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2019, 05:06:22 PM »
I agree about Barry Sanders.  Gale Sayers was fun to watch also, as well as OJ.  We don't seem to have running backs of their ilk any more.

I would watch MJ play in the NBA just to see what craziness he would pull of if they trailed late.  He was also dominant.  
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2019, 05:20:40 PM »
moss ran 4.25 in 1998 combine. don't know if that was hand or laser.
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« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2019, 05:34:53 PM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on August 13, 2019, 05:20:40 PM
moss ran 4.25 in 1998 combine. don't know if that was hand or laser.
Doesn't matter. My eyes tell me he was that fast. He just played at a different speed.
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« Reply #62 on: August 13, 2019, 05:35:43 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 13, 2019, 05:04:24 PM
Calvin was 6'5"+ and 239 at the NFL combine and he ran a 4.35 in the 40. His vertical leap was like 44.5" as well.

Randy Moss was probably the fastest big guy. Randy was 6'4" and 205 ish. Maybe not quite as big as Calvin in terms of body mass. But Randy Moss was the fastest 6'4" guy I think I've ever seen. I don't know what his exact 40 time was. But he was just fast as shit. Randy is right up there with the fastest players ever period.
Randy may have had the best top speed

If he's even, he's leavin

even better than Dickerson
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« Reply #63 on: August 13, 2019, 05:35:52 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 13, 2019, 05:06:22 PM
I agree about Barry Sanders.  Gale Sayers was fun to watch also, as well as OJ.  We don't seem to have running backs of their ilk any more.

I would watch MJ play in the NBA just to see what craziness he would pull of if they trailed late.  He was also dominant. 
Gale Sayers and OJ were more graceful to watch imo. Barry was just jaw dropping insanity. He's the only guy who would continually make my jaw drop. The things that he could do, I've never seen anyone do.
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« Reply #64 on: August 13, 2019, 05:37:41 PM »
Billy Sims was in the OJ and Sayers category

Sanders was in his own league
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« Reply #65 on: August 13, 2019, 05:41:52 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 13, 2019, 05:35:43 PM
Randy may have had the best top speed

If he's even, he's leavin

even better than Dickerson
Randy was basically a Deion Sanders with 4 inches. Every bit as fast as Deion, but at 6'4 instead of 6'.
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #66 on: August 13, 2019, 05:46:47 PM »
the highlight tapes and the documentary clips where everything is slowed down and shown from different angles don't do Randy Moss justice. You need to watch the in-game footage. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxTnVAARhTA
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2019, 05:51:27 PM »
yup, Randy at 4.25, Deion at 4.27

could have been some great matchups when Randy came into the league in 98 and 99 when Deion was with the Cowboys and 2000 with the Redskins

I would guess Deion got "mossed"
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #68 on: August 13, 2019, 05:52:34 PM »
had to check.........  here's the 98 Viking/Cowgirl game

Randy Moss 51 yard pass from Randall Cunningham
Cris Carter 54 yard pass from Randall Cunningham
Randy Moss 56 yard pass from Randall Cunningham
Randy Moss 56 yard pass from Randall Cunningham

Not a great day for Prime Time

Perhaps Deion didn't play that day.  No mention of him in the tackle charts, although he wasn't big on tackling
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Re: Fastest player(s) in your program's history
« Reply #69 on: August 13, 2019, 05:54:24 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 13, 2019, 05:51:27 PM
yup, Randy at 4.25, Deion at 4.27

could have been some great matchups when Randy came into the league in 98 and 99 when Deion was with the Cowboys and 2000 with the Redskins

I would guess Deion got "mossed"
Champ Bailey and Charles Woodson got MOSSED plenty of times in their careers, and they are two of the best CB's to ever play in the NFL. Deion wouldn't have fared any better than those guys imo.

6'4" > 6'

My guess is Randy was not only 4" taller than Deion, but Randy also had longer arms and bigger hands and a higher vertical leap than Deion. That all plays a factor as well. Deion might've been able to keep up with Randy stride for stride, but when that jump ball is in the air, Randy is going to come down with it more times than not.
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