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OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #14 on:** August 11, 2019, 10:57:46 PM »

Quote from: CWSooner on August 11, 2019, 10:53:02 PM

I don't know. I don't know how many football players ever run the hundred. Marcus Dupree did at least once, in a race with one of his teammates, which he won.

Thanks.

This reminds me of something about Rainey at Florida. Demps had better track times, and Harvin was on the same team as them, but word was that Rainey never lost a race vs teammates. So it was sort of conflicting things, but still neat.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #15 on:** August 11, 2019, 10:59:27 PM »

Quote from: MarqHusker on August 11, 2019, 10:55:44 PM

Yeah, I know what you're getting at, I just think the fastest clocked 40 while at Nebraska was also a pretty dad gum good IBack (Keith Jones).

Leslie Dennis absolutely fit your bill though. He ran a 10.4 in high school (Bradenton, FL, same HS as Frazier and Tyrone Williams), and defeated Tamarick Vanover, a future FSU speedster, played CB at about 165lbs, and probably hit as hard as a hot dog wrapper on windy day.

Thanks.

Vanover was a guy who I assumed would have a big yards-per-catch average when I started researching teams, but he didn't. At all. It was low. He was most useful as a return man, as have most of the more track/new football players are.

MarqHusker · « **Reply #16 on:** August 11, 2019, 11:00:11 PM »

Quote from: CWSooner on August 11, 2019, 10:55:40 PM

But someone could be faster than Ben Johnson in the 40 and still not be able to beat him in the 100 meters.

at the risk of taking this interesting post OT, let's not forget the top 100 guys are really the top 100 guys because they decelerate at a lesser rate than other sprinters, i.e. its a 100m dash time not a 40 yard time. Just like nobody has a rising fastball, it simply doesn't drop at the same rate as an ordinary fastball. Or a Top Fuel dragster sucks on a one mile ovals compared to an Indy Car, but not in the 1/4.

CWSooner · « **Reply #17 on:** August 11, 2019, 11:56:37 PM »

Quote from: MarqHusker on August 11, 2019, 11:00:11 PM

at the risk of taking this interesting post OT, let's not forget the top 100 guys are really the top 100 guys because they decelerate at a lesser rate than other sprinters, i.e. its a 100m dash time not a 40 yard time. Just like nobody has a rising fastball, it simply doesn't drop at the same rate as an ordinary fastball. Or a Top Fuel dragster sucks on a one mile ovals compared to an Indy Car, but not in the 1/4.

Hmmm. I'm not a track guy, and I've never run a hundred meters for time. To the extent I ran track events in H.S. gym class, the old 880 was my best event.

But I was assuming that Ben Johnson would be accelerating even at the end of the race, as opposed to decelerating less than his competitors.

So I learned something here.

ELA · « **Reply #18 on:** August 12, 2019, 12:02:02 AM »

Carl Grimes was arguably the states top sprinter as a HS senior. Won a couple state titles individually, anchored a pair of state title relays. He was a decent football prospect too, I think he chose MSU over VT. And this was back in 2003ish, when VT was a perennial top 10 program, and MSU was garbage.

He seemed like a perfect slot threat for JLS' system, but he was just so small. Everyone figured if Agim Shabaj could thrive in that offense, imagine what an athlete like Grimes could do. But he never stuck. I think he would up transferring to Grand Valley State.

MarqHusker · « **Reply #19 on:** August 12, 2019, 12:23:43 AM »

from some fairly reputable sprinters...

When you watch a 100-meter race, you might think that a sprinter pulling away near the end is gaining speed on everyone. That is not the case. Everyone slows down by 70 meters, if not earlier. Boldon says the belief that some are able to get faster at this stage is a myth, or at least an illusion caused by seeing someone pulling ahead.

"Everybody in that last 35 to 40 meters is decelerating," Boldon says. "If you see somebody pull away, it's because they are decelerating less than the others. But everybody, no matter who they are, as long as you are a human, you are decelerating in that last third of the 100."

It isn't that dramatic a drop -- Boldon says the best will slow down by maybe 2 mph - but it is enough to make the difference.

"At 70 meters, you've got to maintain and keep those knees up," says Bromell. "People tend to get to 70 and think, 'Oh, I'm going to kick it into another gear,' but that doesn't happen. You actually end up pressing and slow down even faster."

I think even Usain Bolt's peak speed has come in that 70-80 meter interval, 26 or 27 mph or whatever. 30-60m is generally the top of the bell for those guys.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #20 on:** August 12, 2019, 06:25:49 AM »

https://www.freelapusa.com/how-fast-can-usain-bolt-run-the-40-yard-dash/

Cincydawg · « **Reply #21 on:** August 12, 2019, 07:14:26 AM »

https://www.gridironstuds.com/blog/the-fastest-40-yard-dash-ever/comment-page-4/

I don't know how reliable these figures are, but he has Champ Bailey as fastest for UGA. Champ did pretty well.

Herschel claimed to be running 4.35s at age 48, and then 53, you can take that with a grain..

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/488469-herschel-walker-still-an-amazing-athlete-at-age-50

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/herschel-walker-can-still-play-nfl-53-years-old-fighting-mma-george-foreman-dallas-cowboys-061915

MaximumSam · « **Reply #22 on:** August 12, 2019, 08:06:17 AM »

Ted Ginn was the fastest looking guy I remember for OSU

Temp430 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 12, 2019, 08:10:05 AM »

Steve Breaston sure looked fast on TV returning punts. Had another gear as they say.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 12, 2019, 09:02:55 AM »

fastest guy I remember watching at Michigan was probably Desmond Howard or Ty Wheatley. Anthony Carter was a little bit before my time. Desmond was not only shifty and elusive but he also had a great top gear to blow by people. In terms of pure straight line speed though, I think that might go to Wheatley. And oh yeah, the guy was 6ft and change and 235 pounds and was running in the 4.2's or 4.3's legitimately. He held the state HS record for the 100m dash for like 30 years before it was broken. He was a freak.

Michigan has had plenty of fast guys do next to nothing though. There's a huge difference between 40 yard dash speed and football speed.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #25 on:** August 12, 2019, 09:04:21 AM »

Michael Bennett. Handtimed 40 was either 4.13 or 4.28. 4.38 at combine at 200-plus pounds.

In track, had 6.67 60, 10 second 100 wind aided.

Also had one of the forgotten great UW running seasons along with James White as a senior and maybe Ball as a senior or Brian Calhoun or 1993 Bent Moss.

FearlessF · « **Reply #26 on:** August 12, 2019, 11:26:12 AM »

Fryar the Flyer was known as one of the fastest Huskers ever. There was rumor that he ran sub 4.3, probably hand timed back then.

It was said that Walk-on fullback Mark Schellen was the only teammate to ever beat him in a sprint.

Fryer had great top end speed on the field. No thought of gaining on him.

I found this..........

Nebraska's recruiting prowess in the Tom Osborne coaching era was never more evident than in the early 1980s, when the Huskers snagged wingback Irving Fryar and I-back Mike Rozier from New Jersey.

Fryar was the main receiving threat — catching passes from Texan Turner Gill — with the "Triplets" offense that dominated the Big Eight. And, boy, did Fryar deliver. So much so that he was a No. 1 overall pick in the 1984 NFL draft.

Perhaps the most explosive Husker since Johnny Rodgers, Fryar’s senior year averages in 1983 were eye-popping. The consensus All-American averaged 19.5 yards on 40 catches, with eight touchdowns. He rushed 23 times for 318 yards — 13.8 per carry — and two TDs.

The "Flyer," who ran a 4.43-second 40-yard dash, led the conference in punt returns as a sophomore and junior.

Fryar joined fullback Sam Francis (Philadelphia, 1937) as the only former Huskers to be overall No. 1 NFL draft choices when New England selected him in 1984. Fryar played for the Patriots, Miami, Philadelphia and Washington in a 17-year career. He made the Pro Bowl five times, and he caught a touchdown pass from Steve Grogan in the Patriots' Super Bowl loss to the 1985 Chicago Bears.

Somewhat lost are Fryar's impressive career statistics — 12,785 receiving yards (17th all-time in the NFL through 2014), 851 catches and 84 touchdowns.

Read more: https://dataomaha.com/huskers/player/3596/irving-fryar#ixzz5wOucSlWB

FearlessF · « **Reply #27 on:** August 12, 2019, 11:27:51 AM »

This Dolphin article reports a better 40 time for the Flyer

As a rookie, Fryar only caught 11 passes, but with his 4.23 40-yard speed, the Patriots found a way to get the ball in his hands. He specialized as a punt return man, taking back 36 punts for 347 yards. His 9.6 yard average return was good for seventh best in the NFL.

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