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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2020, 10:15:04 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 24, 2020, 10:00:07 AM
King Barry would beg to differ, but that memory is fading very fast. The 2003 game was awesome. But, he was 3-2 against OSU this Millennium (2-0 in CBus).

UW hangs with OSU mostly. Just can't get the damn win. None since 2010 (also awesome - loudest game I've been to).


Since 2000, Purdue is 5-8 vs OSU.

Wisconsin over the same time frame is 4-13. One fewer win, but quite a few more losses. 

Penn St is 5-15, matching Purdue's win total, while nearly doubling the loss total. 

Michigan St is 3-13, as the only other team with any sort of consistent success vs OSU during this millennium. 

The Wolverines are 3-17, and Iowa is 2-7. 

Purdue is way out in front. 
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2020, 10:38:57 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 24, 2020, 10:15:04 AM



Purdue is way out in front.
I didn't say they were not.

To clarify, King Barry has the best record of any coach against OSU, this Millennium.
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2020, 10:42:47 AM »
What about Clemson?

Or South Carolina teams totally?

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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2020, 10:52:41 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 24, 2020, 10:42:47 AM
What about Clemson?

Or South Carolina teams totally?


We're talking Big Ten teams, but if we aren't, then Clemson has the best record.
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2020, 10:54:10 AM »
How many games does it take before "best record" is considered?  Lincoln Riley is 1-0 vs. The OSU.
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2020, 11:07:07 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 24, 2020, 10:38:57 AM
I didn't say they were not.

To clarify, King Barry has the best record of any coach against OSU, this Millennium.

Let's see, 1990 -2005 Wisconsin was 5-7-1 vs OSU. Not bad. 

Danny Hope was 2-2 vs OSU as Purdue HC, 2-1 if you are into asterisks. So either way, that is a little bit better. 

Brohm is 1-0 vs OSU. 
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2020, 11:15:32 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 24, 2020, 10:42:47 AM
What about Clemson?

Or South Carolina teams totally?


The state of SC is collectively undefeated vs OSU. 
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2020, 11:23:37 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 24, 2020, 11:15:32 AM
The state of SC is collectively undefeated vs OSU.
Might be true for GA as well (1-0, never played Tech).
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2020, 11:25:24 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 24, 2020, 10:15:04 AM

Since 2000, Purdue is 5-8 vs OSU.

Wisconsin over the same time frame is 4-13. One fewer win, but quite a few more losses.

Penn St is 5-15, matching Purdue's win total, while nearly doubling the loss total.

Michigan St is 3-13, as the only other team with any sort of consistent success vs OSU during this millennium.

The Wolverines are 3-17, and Iowa is 2-7.

Purdue is way out in front.
Pelini was 1-1
50% is pretty gooood
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2020, 11:29:44 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 24, 2020, 11:07:07 AM
Let's see, 1990 -2005 Wisconsin was 5-7-1 vs OSU. Not bad.

Danny Hope was 2-2 vs OSU as Purdue HC, 2-1 if you are into asterisks. So either way, that is a little bit better.

Brohm is 1-0 vs OSU.
This millennium started in 1990?
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2020, 11:49:41 AM »
in order for bama:

#1 psu - clear #1, already done this before, have a ton of history together, already a pseudo-rivalry.
#2 texas or ou - texas mainly cause i want a chance to even the series and they're a blue blood. ou cause of crimson brotherhood and also blueblood.
#3 nd - similar to texas.
#4 usc - have decent history together, just not as much as psu.
#5 osu
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2020, 01:26:53 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 23, 2020, 06:48:35 PM
Exactly.

That has to be bewildering to Buckeye fans. Boiler fans can't make heads or tails of it either.

There's no reason these teams should even be in the zip codes of each other most of the past two decades, and yet here we are.
I think it is a product of a lot of things, notably:
  • When Purdue has had chances, they've taken advantage with some big upsets.  
  • Purdue's losses have generally been blowouts while their wins have usually been close.  Ie, Ohio State's last three wins over Purdue include a 56-0 blowout in 2013 and a 49-0 blowout in 2010.  Purdue's last three wins over Ohio State were 49-20 (a big win), 26-23 in OT, and 26-18.  
  • Missing each other a LOT and most of those were seasons in which tOSU would have been a HUMONGOUS favorite.  

Since 2009 Purdue is 3-3 against Ohio State.  That is BY FAR the best winning percentage against tOSU for any team that has played the Buckeyes at least four times in that time-frame.  Next best is MSU at 3-6 and after that is PSU at 2-9.  

Here is that history:
2019:  DNP:  tOSU went 13-1, PU went 4-8
2018:  PU won in a stunning upset made even more stunning by the lopsided 49-20 final score.  tOSU went 13-1, PU went 6-7.
2017:  DNP:  tOSU went 12-2, PU went 7-6
2016:  DNP:  tOSU went 11-2, PU went 3-9
2015:  DNP:  tOSU went 12-1, PU went 2-10
2014:  DNP:  tOSU went 14-1 with an NC, PU went 3-9
2013:  tOSU won 56-0.  tOSU went 12-2, PU went 1-11
2012:  tOSU won 29-22.  tOSU went 12-0, PU went 6-7
2011:  PU won 26-23 in OT.  tOSU went 6-7, PU went 7-6
2010:  tOSU won 49-0.  tOSU went 12-1, PU went 4-8
2009:  PU won 26-18 in a stunning upset.  tOSU went 11-2, PU went 5-7


Over the 11 years from 2009-2019 Purdue's three wins were two stunning upsets by PU teams that finished a combined 11-14 against tOSU teams that finished a combined 24-3 and one win in the only year of the last 11 when Purdue finished with a better record than Ohio State. 

The small sample size is part of it.  If the teams had played every year and PU pulled off two upsets and one win when they finished with a better record they would have gone 3-8 rather than 3-3.  Even if PU had pulled off yet another upset they still would only be 4-7.  
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2020, 01:45:44 PM »
Yeah, the only one that makes any sense is 2011, when OSU was between Tressel and Meyer. 
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Re: Establishing an OOC Rivalry
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2020, 02:06:54 PM »
so, that's how Pelini got a win?
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