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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #532 on: August 05, 2021, 08:41:59 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 04, 2021, 11:40:14 PM
My favorite part is the 3 votes for "I'll never ever buy one, from my cold, dead hand!" 

Glad you like my vote.
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #533 on: August 05, 2021, 12:51:17 PM »
Biden Wants 50 Percent of US Car Sales to be Electrified By 2030 (roadandtrack.com)

Is there any way this changes anything of substance in reality?
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #534 on: August 05, 2021, 01:32:58 PM »
he wants a lot of things

why doesn't he make a few important things happen, instead of headlines that he wants something or another?

how is the fed government or the executive branch going to cause this to happen?

more $$$ for Elon and GM?
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #535 on: August 05, 2021, 04:01:46 PM »
The EO has zero enforcement in it.  It's a piece of paper.
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #536 on: August 07, 2021, 10:08:18 AM »
Morningstar: 4 automakers best poised for electric vehicle boom (cnbc.com)

If 30% of new cars are EVs by 2030, it would take a LONG time to replace most ICE cars on the road.

In the US, we have nearly 290 million cars and trucks on the road and about 17-18 million new ones are sold per year.

Even if we get to half, in the US, it would take a long time to make much of a dent, adding 9 million per year at that point (probably increasing with time).

This is why that IEA list of what needs to happen to get to net zero by 2050 is so ridiculous, one reason, coupled with all the new coal plants going up in China.

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #537 on: August 08, 2021, 07:14:28 AM »
How the Ford F-150 Lightning Electric Truck Is so Darn Cheap (motortrend.com)

This is the first EV I've seen that makes economic sense, to me, or is very close to that.  And no, it doesn't meet every truck need, but I think it would suffice for quite a slew of customer needs.  If you want a work truck used locally it should be more than adequate with a 300 mile est. range, and it can tow if needed at least 100 miles.

It is almost as cheap as their cheapest gas powered truck and would save money on gas and brakes and maintenance over time.

Every other EV, to me, is still "too expensive".
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #538 on: August 09, 2021, 09:06:38 AM »
I really like that EF-150.  I would love to own one in the next few years.  Hopefully the quality of the EF-150 is better than the '12 I owned.  
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #539 on: August 09, 2021, 09:18:10 AM »
My 2015 has been great, zero issues at all (knock on wood)

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #540 on: August 09, 2021, 09:27:24 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 09, 2021, 09:18:10 AM
My 2015 has been great, zero issues at all (knock on wood)
What I found is that it's Cowboys* tough, not cowboy tough.  Couldn't handle the daily workload we need in the country.  

*Cowboys being the NFL variety. 
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« Reply #541 on: August 09, 2021, 09:30:35 AM »
Quote from: Gigem on August 09, 2021, 09:27:24 AM
What I found is that it's Cowboys* tough, not cowboy tough.  Couldn't handle the daily workload we need in the country. 

*Cowboys being the NFL variety.

Mine's no ranch vehicle of course, but it's towing 8K-9K lbs for several thousand miles per year.  Plenty sturdy for that.

I've never done the "use a front-end loader to drop 1 ton of rocks into the bed" thing that you see on the commercials.  But I have loaded up 4 bikes, 12 chairs, two grills, a couple coolers, and several tailgating tables into it for some long hauls. :)
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #542 on: August 09, 2021, 09:45:07 AM »
Am I missing something in thinking the plumbers and electricians will migrate to the EF-150 in numbers?  It would probably start with their companies if they are not indy.

Seems like the perfect city work vehicle, even if the range were only 120 miles or so.
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #543 on: August 09, 2021, 09:50:34 AM »
I don't think you're missing something

but, electricians and plumbers might be old school guys that are leary of new things and change

the first models will probably have some minor issues that will be resolved within the next few years
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« Reply #544 on: August 09, 2021, 10:00:59 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 09, 2021, 09:30:35 AM
Mine's no ranch vehicle of course, but it's towing 8K-9K lbs for several thousand miles per year.  Plenty sturdy for that.

I've never done the "use a front-end loader to drop 1 ton of rocks into the bed" thing that you see on the commercials.  But I have loaded up 4 bikes, 12 chairs, two grills, a couple coolers, and several tailgating tables into it for some long hauls. :)
Yeah like I said, not cowboy tough.  Driving over cow pastures, hauling my tractor, towing 4-6K trailers weekly over bumpy country roads kind of work.  The electric steering gave out at 55K miles, about $2K to fix.  other issues as well.  Liked the truck, plenty of power, towed everything I had extremely well.  
My '16 Ram has been a much better truck overall.  
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #545 on: August 09, 2021, 10:03:04 AM »
Yeah, indy plumbers will keep a truck for 25 years if they can, and then buy used.  But some of these companies have some disposable and could sell off their existing 5 year old F-150s for pretty good cash and "invest" in the EF and save money longer term.

Delivery vans should be here shortly with similar range and cost built on the same platform, great for FedEx.

That could be faster in penetrating the market.
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