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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #462 on: July 08, 2021, 08:55:09 AM »
I think the Ford EV truck would carry all that just fine.

It is very powerful.
I don't believe it's going to have any more payload capacity than a standard F150, so for applications that require 3/4 ton trucks or greater, specifically for their payload capacity, then the new EV Lightning isn't going to suffice, despite its impressive power and torque.

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #463 on: July 08, 2021, 09:02:26 AM »
I don't believe it's going to have any more payload capacity than a standard F150, so for applications that require 3/4 ton trucks or greater, specifically for their payload capacity, then the new EV Lightning isn't going to suffice, despite its impressive power and torque.
Probably not, but it should carry just about anything you can get into the bed that is "normal" work stuff.

I think a lot of folks get the 2500 just because, not because they need it really, but informed buyers would know what they need.  We get work trucks in the parking area frequently and I notice a lot of "plumbers" have 2500s, with little in the back.

Most have 150s of course.


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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #464 on: July 08, 2021, 09:10:19 AM »
Probably not, but it should carry just about anything you can get into the bed that is "normal" work stuff.

I think a lot of folks get the 2500 just because, not because they need it really, but informed buyers would know what they need.  We get work trucks in the parking area frequently and I notice a lot of "plumbers" have 2500s, with little in the back.

Most have 150s of course.


Yes, totally agree with all of the above.  Lots of people buy 250s/2500s, who actually only need 150s/1500s.  Sometimes it's a macho thing, sometimes it's just folks that believe in buying "overbuilt" in every instance, just because. 

But badge specifically said they need the 250s for their particular use case and I was taking him at his word.  If you need payload capacities in the 3K-4K range, then you're going to have to buy a 3/4 ton.  Neither a standard F150 nor the Lightning are designed to handle it.

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #465 on: July 08, 2021, 09:16:25 AM »
I would imagine real engineers know what they need and don't buy because it's cool.


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« Reply #466 on: July 08, 2021, 09:23:40 AM »
I should hope so.  After all, engineers are the smartest and best people on Earth.

I bought the F150 (with max tow package) because it handles what I need from the towing perspective, and it's also a lot more comfortable ride than a 250/2500, which is important to me since it's also my daily driver.

If I were spending a ton of time towing in the mountains, then I'd have gotten the 250 diesel and just put up with the poor ride when unburdened.  But I don't, so I didn't.

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #467 on: July 08, 2021, 09:30:38 AM »
Half ton trucks and 3/4 ton trucks are a total misnomer these days.  Back in the old days, half ton truck meant 1,000 lbs in the bed.  Nowadays you can easily configure almost any truck from the majors to carry upwards of 2-3K lbs payload and towing capacity up in the 12-13K lbs range.  A properly configured 1/2 ton truck is just as capable as any 3/4 ton truck or fairly close anyways.  

The real difference between the trucks is that the 3/4 ton will be much more able to take the abuse of the job site, towing daily, hauling daily, etc.  Next time you get a chance take a look under the truck between a 150/250.  The 250 will always be much more beefier, bigger brakes, bigger axles, etc.  It also will almost always ride much rougher, especially unloaded.  Load em up, some can ride decent.  

FWIW the EV-150 is a heavy beast as well.  

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #468 on: July 08, 2021, 09:31:08 AM »
how long should the battery pack last in harsh climates such as Arizona or North Dakota?

and what are your options for replacement if/when the battery is worn out?
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #469 on: July 08, 2021, 09:33:25 AM »
MOST vehicle purchases are based on subjective or qualitative criteria.  I used to get asked by folks at work what they should buy, and when I'd ask what they needed, I'd get responses like "I like how BMWs look." or "I want a black car."

I once was talking with a salesman and said I wanted a manual, and he said "They all have manuals in the glove compartment.", I S thee not.

My wife was critical of my daighter's choice because she thinks ANY SUV is some monster of a vehicle.  I showed her a Tuscon and she said "It's still too big for her."

It's not much larger than our GTI really.

Car salesmen of course know about this subjectivity and prey on it which makes it difficult for folks like us who know what we want.  I enjoy reading up on cars, have for a long time, used to subscribe to the car mags (I get it on line now for free).

One lady at work bought a new Chrysler minivan even though I knew her kids were in college.  She said she just liked minivans, she used it to drive to work.

She liked sitting up high.

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« Reply #470 on: July 08, 2021, 09:48:23 AM »
SUVs are popular because people don't know what they want, but they like to sit up higher
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« Reply #471 on: July 08, 2021, 11:51:33 AM »
SUVs are popular because people don't know what they want, but they like to sit up higher
Yup, drives me crazy somewhat.  The sedan is dying out, a very few station wagons still languish out there.  We seem headed to a 90% SUV and quasi-SUV market (cars that are really cars propped up to look like an SUV with FWD).

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« Reply #472 on: July 08, 2021, 12:10:09 PM »
another plus for the SUV in snow country is the higher ground clearance for deep snow, but the higher center of gravity makes the normal driver much more likely to rollover.  

I encouraged my daughter to purchase an all-wheel drive Lincoln MKZ sedan

IMO, if the snow is deeper than the sedan can handle, most drivers should wait until the snowplow clears the road

or get a ride in a truck
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« Reply #473 on: July 08, 2021, 12:12:17 PM »
I drove my minivan to work one day when the bumper was pushing the snow to the side.  I was the first car to drive some of the smaller roads.

I had a back way I'd take to work when the freeway was a mess, as it was that day.

I really had no problems at all with fresh snow.

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« Reply #474 on: July 08, 2021, 12:48:41 PM »
another plus for the SUV in snow country is the higher ground clearance for deep snow, but the higher center of gravity makes the normal driver much more likely to rollover. 

I encouraged my daughter to purchase an all-wheel drive Lincoln MKZ sedan

IMO, if the snow is deeper than the sedan can handle, most drivers should wait until the snowplow clears the road

or get a ride in a truck

I hear that this is what the Subaru wagons are for.  They seem to be quite popular in Colorado.

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #475 on: July 08, 2021, 01:04:36 PM »
Subarus are nice because they have that low center of gravity engine design that helps (a boxer type).  I'm a bit surprised more folks don't use them (Porsche does).


 

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