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FearlessF

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« Reply #420 on: June 09, 2021, 04:55:18 PM »
yup, but it's not like I'm driving a dog, like the Chevy Cruze
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #421 on: June 09, 2021, 05:07:54 PM »
Ford Will Source F-150 Lightning Batteries in Georgia, U.S.A. (caranddriver.com)

I had not known this, we drove by that new battery plant, it's huge.
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« Reply #422 on: June 10, 2021, 01:55:23 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 09, 2021, 04:55:18 PM
yup, but it's not like I'm driving a dog, like the Chevy Cruze
Chevy Cruze is not a performance car. I received good reports regarding how it would drive long distance from a mechanic. So, I bought one for my daughter. We drove it from NE Iowa to Tucson for her internship. I flew back. Gas mileage from 34 to 42 mpg. When you drive it, it drives bigger than it is. I flew down and rode back with her. Then, she drove 3x Dubuqe - Stevens Point 412 miles RT for her next internship. It has been a very good little car. Too bad it was discontinued and the Lordstown factory in Ohio closed. It is a solid car with high safety ratings for such a little car, and many other feelings of quality, especially considering its size.
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« Reply #423 on: June 10, 2021, 06:13:55 AM »
CD might like this from my favorite mad genuis mechanic


https://youtu.be/KFbXVLS0lAs
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #424 on: June 10, 2021, 08:48:38 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on June 10, 2021, 01:55:23 AM
Chevy Cruze is not a performance car. I received good reports regarding how it would drive long distance from a mechanic. So, I bought one for my daughter. We drove it from NE Iowa to Tucson for her internship. I flew back. Gas mileage from 34 to 42 mpg. When you drive it, it drives bigger than it is. I flew down and rode back with her. Then, she drove 3x Dubuqe - Stevens Point 412 miles RT for her next internship. It has been a very good little car. Too bad it was discontinued and the Lordstown factory in Ohio closed. It is a solid car with high safety ratings for such a little car, and many other feelings of quality, especially considering its size.

most cars are good cars these days, not knocking them for their intended purpose.
I'm currently driving my daughter's school car, 2010 Malibu.  It's a solid car.  Not my type, but I can see why people like them.
daughter thought the car wouldn't last the winter in Lincoln.  I talked her into buying a Lincoln with all-wheel drive instead of a Durango on a used car lot in Lincoln.

I gave her $3,000 for the malibu thinking I would sell it.  I've driven it over 9,000 miles since last fall.
I need to dump it, the A/C doesn't work and it's way to warm for that here in Iowa.
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #425 on: June 10, 2021, 10:16:30 AM »
My kid had a job with a lot of driving involved at the time, so we bought a Cruze Diesel, it routinely got over 60 mpg highway.

And it was a nice car I thought, for about $23K we paid.  Obviously, it was slow once you got past the torque band, it was a manual transmission.  The daughter had a 2012 Cruze, an absolute strippo, not a single option, it also was a pretty nice car.

My point is that an EV as compared with an ICE model of similar size and function will likely be a good deal quicker on acceleration.  So, you get that benefit.

But we're not very close yet to cost equivalence.  Maybe the F-150 is close.  That one sparks my interest.
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« Reply #426 on: June 10, 2021, 11:04:45 AM »
the question is...... why would a half ton pickup be very close on cost, but not a small car?  Seems odd.

Are they willing to lose money on the F-150 to gain market share and reputation?
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« Reply #427 on: June 10, 2021, 11:10:00 AM »
I think they would be losing money initially.  Obviously, a larger heavier frame provides volume for batteries, and also weight.  I don't know the trade offs of course.  It also has a rather spacious frunk as an added component.  
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« Reply #428 on: June 10, 2021, 11:28:02 AM »
the base C8 Corvette has gone up $1200 each year.

Perhaps the Lightning bumps the price measurably next year? 
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« Reply #429 on: June 10, 2021, 11:33:04 AM »
What often happens is they don't build more than a handful of "base" vehicles.  They make fully optioned Corvettes because they can sell them at $90K and make a little money.  Ford probably will make mostly $60 K F-150s initially and be closer to break even.

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #430 on: June 10, 2021, 11:54:49 AM »
This Is Why We Don't Have Solar-Powered Cars (roadandtrack.com)
This Is Why We Don't Have Solar-Powered Cars (roadandtrack.com)

Leave the car sitting still and you can build up that energy reserve. It just won't happen quickly. With cloudless skies, it'd take 200 hours (8.3 days) to fully charge a Tesla Model 3's 75-kWh battery. With perfect solar panels and perfect weather, that's still a pretty imperfect result.
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« Reply #431 on: June 10, 2021, 01:13:06 PM »
perhaps they could mount a small windmill as a hood ornament
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« Reply #432 on: June 10, 2021, 01:19:26 PM »
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #433 on: June 10, 2021, 01:31:11 PM »
I think the F-150 is basically Ford's most profitable model. So they may be making money but at much thinner margins on the base Lightning compared to the comparably priced F-150 ICEV. 
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