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Topic: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #238 on: April 28, 2021, 11:41:32 AM »
80s Mustangs were hideous.  But they're collectable now because they had that 5.0 and could really move (for the time).  But to abandon the familiar body design for that crap....ugh.
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« Reply #239 on: April 28, 2021, 11:52:08 AM »
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« Reply #240 on: April 28, 2021, 12:20:13 PM »
Might be paywalled, but I was able to access this on mobile this morning:

https://www.ft.com/content/c4e075b8-7289-4756-9bfe-60bf50f0cf66

It's discussing the future of lithium-ion battery tech and the challenges of scale. They seem to think that we're not going to get to a truly "viable" EV scenario at a mass level without solid state battery tech. That's due to a lot of the issues I've noodled on, like lithium and other metal mining scalability, etc. 

One of the few I've seen actually talking about this stuff in depth. 

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« Reply #241 on: April 28, 2021, 12:28:00 PM »
Might be paywalled, but I was able to access this on mobile this morning:

https://www.ft.com/content/c4e075b8-7289-4756-9bfe-60bf50f0cf66
I'm interested but it was behind the paywall for me.

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« Reply #242 on: April 28, 2021, 12:41:20 PM »
80s Mustangs were hideous.  But they're collectable now because they had that 5.0 and could really move (for the time).  But to abandon the familiar body design for that crap....ugh.
Really 1973 was the end of the first era of Mustangs.  After that, they introduced the "Mustang II" which looked pretty much like the Ford Pinto.  It wasn't until 1979 that they switched to the Fox body that you find hideous, which was the standard platform through 1993.
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I actually liked the Fox body a lot better than some other iterations (I even owned one for about 10 years).  It was absolutely better than the Mustang II (Which many Mustang clubs won't even acknowledge as a Mustang) and it was also better than some of the bloated, more sedan-like looking 1st gen Mustangs of the early 70s.





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« Reply #243 on: April 28, 2021, 12:45:53 PM »
For me #1 > #2 > #3










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« Reply #244 on: April 28, 2021, 01:03:05 PM »
#1 was certainly high on my list circa early 90's.  I always like the LX Mustang of the era a little better for some reason.  

The 80's/early 90's Camaro did not age well at all IMO and the mid 90's to mid '00's aged worse.  

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« Reply #245 on: April 28, 2021, 01:26:20 PM »
I think that early-90s mustang saved it.  Total game-changer.
Looking at the year-by-year sales, yeah, the Fox-body was down to 79K, by far the lowest figure ever.  That doubled in 2 years with the early-90s design.  That fizzled in the early-2000s, and the next design change bumped it back up in 2005.  And another big bump in 2015.
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I was born in '80, and so all I knew growing up was the mid-60s (classics), and Foxbody before the '93/94 version came out.  Those early-mid 70s weren't even a blip on the radar, which you explained why, lol.  But my mind couldn't wrap around going from the 60s design to the Foxbody.....I didn't see the convoluted evolution, just the stark contrast of awesome to awful.
The 93/94 was a huge step in the right direction, and the further redesign in 05 was great, too.  
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« Reply #246 on: April 28, 2021, 01:39:44 PM »
Love seeing Corvette Clubs get together, they are quite prolific.    One cool byproduct of living in Indy, mass respect and interest in automobiles.  Lots of cool shows, fairs and festivals.  To say nothing of all the cool testing they do at IMS.    This is always the best month or two of the year with classics on the road following winter and getting into May in Indy.

It may not be Pebble Beach, Amelia or some of the other high profile shows but there's not much you won't see in any given year.
One of the benefits of living in SoCal is that I see a lot of pretty crazy cars on the road.

In ~2003, I was riding motorcycles with a Purdue buddy from Indiana up on Mulholland Highway and we were stopped at a turnout for a break. A parade of ~100+ Ferraris, of all vintages, comes roaring past. Must have been the local Ferrari club. I looked at him and said "I doubt there are this many Ferraris in the entire state of IN..."

It's almost crazy how jaded you get... How exotic a car has to be before it genuinely gets your attention here. Even seeing a McLaren is pretty much ho-hum. Lamborghini, Ferrari? Yeah, I see them in the Target parking lot. Heck, I remember in the early 2000s when I lived in an apartment, and there was an apartment-dweller who had a BMW Z8. Fancy cars are just not all that impressive here.

One that I rarely see and always get a little excited about are Aston Martin. It's one of those situations where you feel like it's somebody that doesn't just have money; they have taste. 

I don't think I've ever seen a Bugatti... That would be an event. That goes beyond "taste" to someone who is just flaunting their wealth again lol...

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #247 on: April 28, 2021, 01:40:20 PM »
 Those early-mid 70s weren't even a blip on the radar, which you explained why, lol.  But my mind couldn't wrap around going from the 60s design to the Foxbody.....I didn't see the convoluted evolution, just the stark contrast of awesome to awful.

The 93/94 was a huge step in the right direction, and the further redesign in 05 was great, too. 
Yeah the Fox body was definitely a huge departure from the original mid 60s styling, and I can totally understand why you don't like them.  And you're not alone, tons of people disliked them.

The 94 Mustang was sort of their first attempt at a bit of a throwback, and I'm luke-warm on it.  When they REALLY committed to the throwback look in 2005, that's when I loved Mustangs again.

My 13yo daughter also loves them, this is her current dream car and she's pretty much dead set on it.  Sure hope she's saving up her babysitting money! :)



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« Reply #248 on: April 28, 2021, 02:09:01 PM »
Oh, and to keep it on topic-- there is NOT an electric version of the Mustang above. :)

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« Reply #249 on: April 28, 2021, 02:23:35 PM »
Husker RED with Blackshirt accents is pretty
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« Reply #250 on: April 28, 2021, 02:34:32 PM »
Husker RED with Blackshirt accents is pretty
Her current middle school colors are red and black, I'm gonna go with that. 

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« Reply #251 on: April 28, 2021, 02:37:43 PM »
better a Husker than a Red Raider
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