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Hawkinole · « **Reply #224 on:** April 28, 2021, 01:04:57 AM »

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on April 27, 2021, 03:42:38 PM

And the emissions of all the electricity generated to power the EV, assuming it isn't 100% solar or other clean energy...
Was that the WSJ op-ed page or somewhere else in the paper?

Based on just that line, I wonder if it was an ideologically-motivated author.

We are at a bit of an advantage in Iowa over the rest of the USA in that our power grid is 40% wind power, in addition we have some solar, and some hydroelectric. Our only nuclear power plant was closed recently. In Iowa EV emissions are fairly low, but so far we have few Teslas, and few Chevy Bolts. If your area still generates electricity through coal, EV autos are not so good with emissions.
Everything is relative, and is more difficult to consider than we like, but having things be relative is the beauty of having an educated society that can see things in grayscale, not just B & W.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #225 on:** April 28, 2021, 07:56:36 AM »

Human beings prefer absolutes, even when they are wrong.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #226 on:** April 28, 2021, 08:06:47 AM »

Absolutely

Cincydawg · « **Reply #227 on:** April 28, 2021, 08:14:56 AM »

We seem to be most comfortable with birds of a feather, in groups, which makes sense. If we're OSU fans, we don't like UM fans, absolutely, and vice versa. We act the same way politically and with general opinions, few humans thrive on diverse opinions that are well formed and logical, it makes us uneasy in the main.

This is one thing scientific training SHOULD make you enjoy.

FearlessF · « **Reply #228 on:** April 28, 2021, 08:42:08 AM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on April 27, 2021, 10:10:56 PM

So will the Vettes of say 1973-1988 ever gain significant collector value?

Per cargurus, a 1984 Vette is worth $2,500-$7,000 today. For comparison a 1964 Vette is worth at least 4x that.

cars of the mid-70s thru the 80s sucked
I blame Ralph Nader

utee94 · « **Reply #229 on:** April 28, 2021, 08:56:26 AM »

Quote from: MarqHusker on April 27, 2021, 10:50:23 PM

Love seeing Corvette Clubs get together, they are quite prolific. One cool byproduct of living in Indy, mass respect and interest in automobiles. Lots of cool shows, fairs and festivals. To say nothing of all the cool testing they do at IMS. This is always the best month or two of the year with classics on the road following winter and getting into May in Indy.

It may not be Pebble Beach, Amelia or some of the other high profile shows but there's not much you won't see in any given year.

I'm the same way but with Mustang Clubs. I really can't get enough of seeing them.

I was never a huge fan of the Mustang Mach 1, I prefer the smaller and more subtle 65/66 years, but I saw a really beautiful gold and black Mach 1 in the Costco parking lot the other day. Looked like this:

MrNubbz · « **Reply #230 on:** April 28, 2021, 09:07:45 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on April 28, 2021, 08:56:26 AM

I was never a huge fan of the Mustang Mach 1

I'm not a classic car nut but a friend had one back in the day it had some cajones.I liked it even though I was a GM guy

FearlessF · « **Reply #231 on:** April 28, 2021, 09:24:43 AM »

classic car clubs gathering and cruising and showing off the iron is always good, even Mopars

a few years ago I started attending the "Show & shine" and other car shows in the area, was gonna try to buy something cool.

Then I decided I'd rather have something I could drive 5,000 miles a year and take to Lincoln or Texas.

So, I gave up on the 60's and early 70's and turned towards 90's Vettes. Still looking. They are expensive

utee94 · « **Reply #232 on:** April 28, 2021, 09:48:11 AM »

Quote from: FearlessF on April 28, 2021, 09:24:43 AM

classic car clubs gathering and cruising and showing off the iron is always good, even Mopars

a few years ago I started attending the "Show & shine" and other car shows in the area, was gonna try to buy something cool.

Then I decided I'd rather have something I could drive 5,000 miles a year and take to Lincoln or Texas.

So, I gave up on the 60's and early 70's and turned towards 90's Vettes. Still looking. They are expensive

Yeah the classics are fun to dream about. Not at all practical of course.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #233 on:** April 28, 2021, 10:01:32 AM »

There used to be car shows on many weekends at a park near us. Some of them were really impressive, some were virtual unknown types. I enjoyed walking around when the weather was nice.

I went to one very informal "show" (more of a meeting of sports car owners) in France, I had no idea what most of the models were, 1960s Peugots and whatnot. There was one Vette there, which looked, um, out of place.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #234 on:** April 28, 2021, 10:55:37 AM »

GM Will Build Two Electric SUVs for Honda by 2024 (roadandtrack.com)

utee94 · « **Reply #235 on:** April 28, 2021, 11:08:34 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on April 28, 2021, 10:01:32 AM

There used to be car shows on many weekends at a park near us. Some of them were really impressive, some were virtual unknown types. I enjoyed walking around when the weather was nice.

I went to one very informal "show" (more of a meeting of sports car owners) in France, I had no idea what most of the models were, 1960s Peugots and whatnot. There was one Vette there, which looked, um, out of place.

In 1995 I saw a Jeep Cherokee drive through downtown Paris with a surfboard on its roof rack. Talk about looking out of place...

FearlessF · « **Reply #236 on:** April 28, 2021, 11:10:41 AM »

some poor lost American

no wonder the Parisiens have a less than glowing opinion

Cincydawg · « **Reply #237 on:** April 28, 2021, 11:35:06 AM »

New Energy Department Battery Target: Shocking Drop To $60/kWh (insideevs.com)

the Energy Department dropped its federal target to $80/kWh. This was an effort that was part of the department's “Energy Storage Grand Challenge," which the publication says may have been influenced by Tesla's and VW's lofty goals.
Now, just this week, the department has dropped its target yet again, to a shocking $60/kWh. Moreover, the department’s director of the Office of Vehicles Technologies Dave Powell told the Mobilist that the new price target "more closely approximates the total cost of the combustion drive train." We're talking about price parity with ICE cars here.
It's important to note that back in 2009, that cost per kilowatt-hour was a whopping $1,200. The goal for 2012 dropped significantly, to $500, with a future target of $100 to $150/kWh. However, at that time, there was no year listed for when that target might become a reality.

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