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Topic: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level

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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #70 on: April 13, 2021, 05:43:00 PM »
On-topic, remember the various vortex air intake inserts?

Yeah, because if those worked to improve power and gas mileage, they would be standard equipment, not some aftermarket thing not sold in stores, as seen on TV, right?!

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #71 on: April 13, 2021, 06:10:28 PM »
Geesh, yeah, I recall the magnet ads for your fuel line.  Holy cow.  What other complete fake things have been foisted on the unwary?
one of my favs are the copper-fit line of health elastic braces for your elbows and knees and other body parts
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #72 on: April 13, 2021, 07:11:14 PM »


I bet those shriner cars get good mileage. 

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« Reply #73 on: April 14, 2021, 03:26:24 AM »
one of my favs are the copper-fit line of health elastic braces for your elbows and knees and other body parts
I bought up at least 100 copper-fit masks.  They have a neck string so they can just dangle when they're not covering your face!  They're amazing!
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #74 on: April 14, 2021, 03:28:54 AM »
Interesting.  I have no clue on what evidence or logic that is based beyond some notion corporations are evil.
I say they always act in the best interest of their shareholders.
I say they dictate the pace of tech progress.
I say this and that, all along pretty mundane (to me) lines of being in power and maintaining that power and wanting to remain in power.
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But YOU choose to use the word "evil."  That's interesting.
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« Reply #75 on: April 14, 2021, 03:31:01 AM »
Your wasting your time with this guy.  He is beyond clueless about how businesses work, succeed or fail and has never been near a Boardroom. 

Like the ignorant masses he so often criticizes- he forms and spouts opinions about things he has a knowledge deficit in. As you said, narrative thinking.  All big companies and those who run them are EEVViIILL!  Poor guy.
Another person taking my ho-hum description of major corporations' behaviors and goals, and calling it evil. 
Again, interesting. 
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Why do you guys feel the need to interject ethical judgement?  
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #76 on: April 14, 2021, 03:39:22 AM »

I think you should research Occam's Razor--the simplest explanation is that the tech is a lot harder than you think it is, which is why it's only available in luxury cars or range-limited cars today. Not because of nefarious CEOs trying to squash it.
This is another issue I have with automakers.
Tiers.
Tiers of every type of vehicle in every class.  
Probably a range of like 40 vehicles if you differentiate the base model, SE, PV, DVD, Limited, etc....
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How much would a corvette cost if Chevy simply produced their one, best car?  Or one best sports car and one best 4-door and one best truck.  Wouldn't each of them cost far less?  

No more "which model" crap.  The best of this model.  Fewer range of parts, fewer differentiated tasks along the assembly line.  Larger bulk purchases of parts.  

I know.  I'm wrong and ignorant.  I know the masses want 938 different thises and thats.  It's just another inefficiency.  Don't bother shitting on this post, it's just another absurdity.
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #77 on: April 14, 2021, 09:36:55 AM »
They tried one size fits all somewhere else, comrade

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« Reply #78 on: April 14, 2021, 11:00:15 AM »
And so it's automatically a bad idea?  You'd have plenty of options, still.  
Ford's best SUV, Chevy's best SUV, on and and on. 
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Tiers of vehicles is how they extract every dollar from our hands.  I want a car, I like this car, but it's a little too expensive.  Oh, that's okay, here, we offer it with manual windows and fewer safety options.  Now you can barely afford it.  Let me get the paperwork started....
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The best possible car in each class from each company would be plenty of options, drag down prices, and everyone had a decent ride.  Evil, right?
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« Reply #79 on: April 14, 2021, 11:05:57 AM »
best possible would be too expensive for many of the masses
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« Reply #80 on: April 14, 2021, 11:32:24 AM »
And so it's automatically a bad idea?  You'd have plenty of options, still. 
Ford's best SUV, Chevy's best SUV, on and and on.
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Tiers of vehicles is how they extract every dollar from our hands.  I want a car, I like this car, but it's a little too expensive.  Oh, that's okay, here, we offer it with manual windows and fewer safety options.  Now you can barely afford it.  Let me get the paperwork started....
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The best possible car in each class from each company would be plenty of options, drag down prices, and everyone had a decent ride.  Evil, right?
Okay, OAM... You've convinced me. Having all these different options and tiers is just way too confusing, so it would make much more sense to simply have ONE model that is the best model with all the options.

As a corollary, I'm sure you'd agree that the best version of Whoa Nellie is the version that contains ALL the teams you've painstakingly created. It's just so damn confusing for a buyer to have to pick and choose which teams he wants, and which teams he doesn't want. And then you, as an evil businessman, tell the customer that if they want more teams than the standard offering they have to PAY MORE?! And I'm sure it's a lot of work for you to tailor every single outgoing order to what the individual customer wants. It would help the customer so much to simply have all the teams. 

So I assume you're going to follow your own advice and only offer the best version of Whoa Nellie, and stop all this silly customization? 

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« Reply #81 on: April 14, 2021, 11:49:09 AM »
why have a best possible from each company

why not just the best possible?

no need for multiple greedy companies
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« Reply #82 on: April 14, 2021, 11:53:01 AM »
why have a best possible from each company

why not just the best possible?

no need for multiple greedy companies
Using mother Russia as a boogeyman doesn't work, guys.  It's 2021.  
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« Reply #83 on: April 14, 2021, 11:53:31 AM »
Okay, OAM... You've convinced me. Having all these different options and tiers is just way too confusing, so it would make much more sense to simply have ONE model that is the best model with all the options.

As a corollary, I'm sure you'd agree that the best version of Whoa Nellie is the version that contains ALL the teams you've painstakingly created. It's just so damn confusing for a buyer to have to pick and choose which teams he wants, and which teams he doesn't want. And then you, as an evil businessman, tell the customer that if they want more teams than the standard offering they have to PAY MORE?! And I'm sure it's a lot of work for you to tailor every single outgoing order to what the individual customer wants. It would help the customer so much to simply have all the teams.

So I assume you're going to follow your own advice and only offer the best version of Whoa Nellie, and stop all this silly customization?

You tore a groin muscle with that stretch.
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