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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #154 on: April 16, 2021, 11:59:03 AM »
So 50 years is too slow for an ice age?  lol
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« Reply #155 on: April 16, 2021, 12:05:46 PM »
Back in the '70's, teachers scared the shit out of me, talking about the looming ice age.
derned liberal educators ;)
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« Reply #156 on: April 16, 2021, 12:56:06 PM »
The 1970s "coming ice age" is a good example of how our media mess things up.  It was a handful of climatologists at the time and they had a concern, the Little Ice Age was a real thing, possibly related to solar activity.  It was very speculative, but TIME picked it up and ran an hysterical cover story on it as if it was real.

Even a basic summary of some climate article is tough to read.  And yet folks have strongly held opinions on the topic.  Based on their politics, not science, which is pretty much beyond most of us, including me, I've tried.

Nearly every article in MSM about science has some errors, often massive ones.  Things like Science News are a lot better, and very readable.

I saw a TESLA SUV hooked up to our new outlets.  Usually the two spaces are empty, so far.

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« Reply #157 on: April 18, 2021, 09:27:33 AM »
No matter where you are on climate change, there's no debate that it is changing.  There's also no debate that it's always changing.  The thing many don't seem to want to understand is the time factor.  Ebbs and flows of a degree or three are perfectly natural....over thousands+ years.  A change of a degree or three in 150 years is radical and just happened to occur between the industrial revolution to now. 

And anyone suggesting that's a coincidence isn't being honest.



*At least, that's my understanding, but I'm sure someone who happens to miss a certain leader will correct me with alternative facts.
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« Reply #158 on: April 18, 2021, 11:41:17 AM »
The Little Ice Age is still not well understood.  Some claim it only impacted the northern hemisphere.  But temperatures in parts of the world fell drastically and quickly, coincident with a dearth of sunspots.  Did that cause it?  or some volcanic eruption?  It's still debated.  The drop in T was dramatic apparently, and records of the period note starvation because of it.  So, it is POSSIBLE the current climate change is natural.  I don't think it's likely.




Alpine glaciers advanced far below their previous (and present) limits, obliterating farms, churches, and villages in Switzerland, France, and elsewhere. Frequent cold winters and cool, wet summers led to crop failures and famines over much of northern and central Europe. In addition, the North Atlantic cod fisheries declined as ocean temperatures fell in the 17th century.




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« Reply #159 on: April 18, 2021, 12:11:07 PM »
Some serious cow farting going on in England during this period.

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« Reply #160 on: April 18, 2021, 01:36:15 PM »
Little Ice Age - Changes in large-scale atmospheric patterns | Britannica

A nice short summary of it, our lack of a consistent explanation is interesting.


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« Reply #161 on: April 18, 2021, 04:49:51 PM »


The Mustang EV we passed in DC a week or so back.

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« Reply #162 on: April 18, 2021, 04:50:35 PM »


I took this with my cell phone.  I'm amazed how good phone cameras are today.

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« Reply #163 on: April 19, 2021, 09:44:53 AM »
You guys ever look up the tallest statues of the world?  

The US is not big on massive statues.  I wonder if that's due to our conservative christianhood not wanting a bunch of potential idols all over the place.  
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« Reply #164 on: April 19, 2021, 10:20:28 AM »
I don't know why it has to be "30 years in the future" or even 15.  Think about the smart phone era.  We're not even 15 years into it (if you draw the line at 2007's first iPhone).  Things can change fast, especially if market forces drive them.  Smart phones didn't become ubiquitous because they're cheaper to buy or cheaper to own (they cost much more to buy and much more to operate because you have to have data).  They were just better, and people who didn't need one before suddenly and almost universally need one after.  

EV's will see mass adoption because they will be better.  They will be cheaper to operate, more powerful, and just better.  Right now, as stated in an earlier post, EV's are about an $8K premium over a comparable gas car.  Not sure the delta on trucks, but with battery prices dropping look for that to close as well.  Eventually there will come a day when they are on-par, and then maybe it will be even cheaper to buy the EV.  Once EV is the cheaper choice I think most folks will adjust their habits and go EV, with or without gov't intervention.  

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« Reply #165 on: April 19, 2021, 10:26:34 AM »
In a lot of areas of this country, there is already an issue supplying electricity to the grid. California already experiences rolling blackouts due to grid capacity. When you start plugging EV's into it in greater numbers, it could cause massive problems. There is also the issue of range. I am traveling distances well over 300 miles a few times in the next couple of months. As my time is precious, I don't really want to spend extra hours on the trip waiting for a battery to recharge. 

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« Reply #166 on: April 19, 2021, 10:35:21 AM »
We are currently a 2 car family, with a 10 year old. Both of our ICE's are new enough they should still be operational when she is starting to drive. So unless something unforeseen happens our next car is in 6 years. And I will take a long hard look at an EV then. 

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« Reply #167 on: April 19, 2021, 12:33:26 PM »
You guys ever look up the tallest statues of the world? 

The US is not big on massive statues. I wonder if that's due to our conservative christianhood not wanting a bunch of potential idols all over the place. 
Certainly could be part of it.

Also, Americans have a stronger sense of individualism and self, than many other cultures, and so creating massive monuments to others, isn't really in our nature.

 

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