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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1232 on: December 16, 2023, 08:50:01 AM »
The 0-60 time was 5.7 seconds, which is close to what a modern GTI will do.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1233 on: December 16, 2023, 08:59:35 AM »
I still like going fast, but only at the right place and time.   

Try to go to the strip or/and road course once a year. 

But me and Mrs HB will take 2 cars out early on Saturday or Sunday and drive 20-30 minutes inland where the roads are flat, smooth and empty. Fun to get up to 150 ish. 

Unfortunately- those are the only ways to safely enjoy the kind of cars I like - with the exception of the occasional entrance or exit ramps that are empty. 

Anything that is slower than 4.0 in the 0-60 or 11.9 in the 1/4 mile ( including SUVs) is slow to me.   
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1234 on: December 16, 2023, 09:05:54 AM »
With my budget, I'm basically looking for something that will accelerate from 70 mph decently well without downshifting and flooring it, and feels reasonably perky around town.  The fastest I've driven is in a CTS-V at COTA on the back straight.  I didn't look down to check my speed, the instructors told us we should be over 140.  Stuff was going by quite rapidly and I focused on steering and when to brake.

We ABUSED those brakes so much they told us they replaced the pads and tires after one day's event.  That was a fun time.

In a Cessna doing 140 of course is pretty much nothing.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1235 on: December 16, 2023, 09:12:24 AM »
I like having power out of the gate and the ability to effortlessly pass.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1236 on: December 16, 2023, 09:24:58 AM »
I like a lot of things, but will settle for what makes basic sense, usually.

I like high end Burgundy wines, but those days are pretty much over.  We did splurge a bit on the condo, but it's worth it, to us.

I at times check how much it would cost to upgrade from Delta Comfort to Delta One and laugh, to myself, no chance.

They want $330 per to upgrade to first class for one leg of our upcoming trip.  

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1237 on: December 16, 2023, 09:28:09 AM »
I like having power out of the gate and the ability to effortlessly pass.
Power out of the gate is one thing EVs generally are quite good at.  

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« Reply #1238 on: December 16, 2023, 10:04:47 AM »
Power out of the gate is one thing EVs generally are quite good at. 
Yeah, and as I pointed out, there are cars out there with deceptive HP numbers that require you "drive it like you stole it" to be in the powerband. The old Honda S2000 was notorious for this, with a 9K RPM redline and a powerband that peaked up in that range. For example, here's a dyno I've found of a stock S2000
here's a dyno I've found of a stock S2000




I complain about this with my Flex, honestly. Reported HP numbers are 285 hp, but the motor has variable valve timing that only really opens it up at high RPM. And a Flex, of course, is not designed to be driven at high RPM. I could have gotten the EcoBoost engine which is turbocharged, which would have made a big difference there as turbo engines help with low-end torque. Of course, the EcoBoost models cos about $5K more, and research I did on the vehicle reported issues with the AWD on those models, so I avoided it.

Now compare that to an EV. Below are the torque/HP curves of two model 3's both in performance mode and "chill" mode
Below are the torque/HP curves of two model 3's both in performance mode and "chill" mode



Those torque curves suggest you're not gonna have ANY trouble off the line or accelerating to highway speed. 

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« Reply #1239 on: December 16, 2023, 10:15:57 AM »
I like a lot of things, but will settle for what makes basic sense, usually.

I like high end Burgundy wines, but those days are pretty much over.  We did splurge a bit on the condo, but it's worth it, to us.

I at times check how much it would cost to upgrade from Delta Comfort to Delta One and laugh, to myself, no chance.

They want $330 per to upgrade to first class for one leg of our upcoming trip. 
If what you like is within your means, it makes sense.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1240 on: December 16, 2023, 10:16:08 AM »
AWD helps a lot as well of course once you pass a certain power level.  I'd guess some EV buyers like that feeling, it impresses them these aren't "golf carts".  And they can smoke Camaros if they want to.

The new Corvette E-ray has an interesting design, it's apparently not much faster than a Stingray 0-60, but it's tougher to get times down from 3 seconds.  

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1241 on: December 16, 2023, 10:20:36 AM »
My wife, fortunately, is pretty sensible about spending.  But she does like top of the line items often as not.  She says she'd rather do without than buy something not good enough.  We splurge on cabins when we cruise.  I'll pay for the extra leg room in Comfort seats over Main Cabin.  We dine out fairly often.  I signed four of us up for a tour to the top of Mauna Kea next week, that was pricey.  Hopefully the weather cooperates. Last time we were there, it was cancelled three nights in a row.

She didn't want to dine out this week because she knows we'll be spending a fair bit on our trip (two weeks).

But buying an EV has to make sense, to me, and it doesn't.

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« Reply #1242 on: December 16, 2023, 10:34:54 AM »
I like the McClaren cars - a lot.

I'll never own one unless a pile of money falls into my lap. They are simply not practical for us, so it's not a car for a one-car household, which is what we are (well, and that crappy EV golf cart).
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« Reply #1243 on: December 16, 2023, 10:40:03 AM »
I'm an American car guy

but, if the right Porsche came along I could pull the trigger
Finding a good mechanic might be an issue
couldn't afford a new one and nearest dealership is 90 miles away
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« Reply #1244 on: December 16, 2023, 11:26:06 AM »
Next car will be a GLE, most likely. Probably the GLE43. I like the AMG enhancements. 



The full AMG GLE63 is pretty pricey and has way more power than I'd ever use. 

The 43 makes almost 400HP. The 63 makes over 600HP.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1245 on: December 16, 2023, 12:03:21 PM »
My pitching coach has a nice looking GLE.  He likes it, I think it's the standard model.

2024 Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class Review, Pricing, and Specs (caranddriver.com)

The 0-60 times are indicative of something real, I think, but can be misleading at times, or even somewhat irrelevant.  We rarely bury the loud pedal, or use launch control.

 

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