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utee94

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #952 on: November 12, 2023, 10:08:39 AM »
I don't know what it's like in Atlanta, but I see a LOT of folks buying pure EVs out here in Cali... Can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Model 3.
Yeah... I'd say California isn't exactly "representative" when it comes to stuff like this.

Even here in liberal, high-tech Austin, where sales of EVs are comparatively strong, I'd still be surprised if it's more than 1/20 new cars being sold, are pure EV.


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« Reply #953 on: November 12, 2023, 10:12:56 AM »
Yeah... I'd say California isn't exactly "representative" when it comes to stuff like this.

Even here in liberal, high-tech Austin, where sales of EVs are comparatively strong, I'd still be surprised if it's more than 1/20 new cars being sold, are pure EV.



Some quick googling tells me that here in Texico for 2022(ish), new EV registrations were about 67,000 and total new cars sold were about 1.3 million, so that comes in right at 5% or 1/20.

Since I know rural Texas isn't buying... well... any, then I guess I'm wrong and the number in Austin must be at least slightly higher than 1/20. :)


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« Reply #954 on: November 12, 2023, 10:19:22 AM »
The funny thing is I hear people from around the country say "I've never even seen a Rivian."

I see them all the time. Of course, their HQ is in Irvine, and it's possible they're all employee-owned vehicles. But I see them lol :57:

I see one driveway in my neighborhood walking the dog with two Rivians. One truck and one SUV. If I ever walk by while someone's outside, I might ask if they're Rivian employees... 

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #955 on: November 12, 2023, 10:23:08 AM »
[color=rgba(34,87,218,var(--tw-text-opacity))]Electric vehicles (EVs)[/url] accounted for nearly 9% of monthly new vehicle registrations in Atlanta in January 2023 — up from 5.5% in January 2022, Axios' Joann Muller reports.[/font][/size][/color]

You might think 9% is a large percentage, and it is, but Atlanta probably has over a million vehicles in the metro area.  I see different figures on new car sales, call it a quarter million.  So, 25,000 new EVs per year more or less would take a long time to replace 2 million plus ICE vehicles, and obviously the 9% probably will increase each year.

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« Reply #956 on: November 12, 2023, 10:23:52 AM »
I think I've seen... maybe one Rivian here in Austin?

Teslas are the most common EVs I see, but it could be just because I notice their unique styling.  It's possible that I'm seeing a lot of EV Toyotas or Hondas or whatever, and just can't tell, because they look like any other Toyota or Honda or whatever.

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« Reply #957 on: November 12, 2023, 10:31:19 AM »
I think I've seen... maybe one Rivian here in Austin?

Teslas are the most common EVs I see, but it could be just because I notice their unique styling.  It's possible that I'm seeing a lot of EV Toyotas or Hondas or whatever, and just can't tell, because they look like any other Toyota or Honda or whatever.
Both Honda and Toyota are late on the pure BEV train. I don't even really see them here. 

With the money around Austin, it wouldn't surprise me if you've seen a couple Audi E-Tron or Jaguar I-Pace and not even realized you were looking at an EV. They don't look like a platypus (Model 3) or a fat platypus (Model Y). 

Hyundai and Kia both have EVs as well. The Hyundai Ionic 5 would probably stand out to you as it's ugly as f**k and also weird-looking in a Blade Runner futuristic way that screams "EV". But the Kia EVs are actually sorta good looking. 

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« Reply #958 on: November 12, 2023, 10:53:33 AM »
Quite a few Teslas around my local town of 30,000.  I usually see 3-4 or more per day. 

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« Reply #959 on: November 12, 2023, 10:56:07 AM »
I noticed a new "Mustang" a week or so ago.
Only because the woman cut me off in traffic
might be an EV don't know
looked like many of the SUVs
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« Reply #960 on: November 12, 2023, 10:57:37 AM »

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« Reply #961 on: November 13, 2023, 11:46:39 AM »
Electric Vehicles Owners Maybe Just Don't Drive As Much: New Study (roadandtrack.com)
Electric Vehicles Owners Maybe Just Don't Drive As Much: New Study (roadandtrack.com)

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #963 on: November 17, 2023, 01:08:56 PM »
Maybe this has been addressed here already, but what does an average EV do to one's electric bill?  Say you drive 60 miles per day on average. 

And is it anywhere near feasible yet to take road trips with one of those things?  I don't notice a slew of charging stations everywhere--not that I'm looking for them--and I've heard it can take an hour or more to charge, which is completely untenable when traveling.  And how much does it cost to charge up at one of those station if you found one and had the time?  

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« Reply #964 on: November 17, 2023, 01:18:45 PM »
The answers vary a lot depending on where you live and how much your electricity costs.

As of February 2023, the average residential electricity rate in the U.S. is about 23 cents per kilowatt-hour (kWh).
Importantly, electricity rates can vary widely based on where you live. Rates vary from a low of 10.35 ¢ / kWh in Idaho to a high of 28.38 ¢ / kWh in California.


An EV uses about 33-34 kWhr to go 100 miles.  In your scenario, it would cost you about $4.50 on average to charge you car to home to drive 60 miles.  I pay about 13 cents per kWhr here, so it would be less of course.  Commercial chargers cost more than charging at home and vary all  over the map.


Gas around here is under $3 right now.  If you get 30 mpg, which is not uncommon, you'd be paying $6 with an ICE car obviously.  As for charging times needed, that depends a LOT on which kind of charger one is using.  A 110 volt outlet adds only about 3-4 miles of range per hour.  




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« Reply #965 on: November 17, 2023, 01:43:49 PM »
Looks like I'm paying 13.5 cents per kWh.  33-34 kWh for 100 miles = ~20 kWh per 60 miles, so * .135 = $2.70 to drive 60 miles. 

Currently, at ~35 mpg I need 1.71 gallons to go 60 miles.  Most used gas station for me is $2.46 today, so that's $4.22 to drive 60 miles.

If I figured that correctly, looks like an average EV would be cheaper, purely from a fueling up perspective.  No telling what kind of hidden or long-term costs may offset that or further increase the benefit. 

110 outlet needing an hour for every 3-4 miles of range is laughable, and it means I couldn't possibly keep the thing charged.  I'd need 210 hours per day.  I'm no math genius, but 210 hrs/day seems like a tough ask.  

 

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