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Hybrid/EV Battery Recycling - GlobalTech Environmental

Cars Are Going Electric. What Happens to the Used Batteries?  | WIRED
Cars Are Going Electric. What Happens to the Used Batteries?  | WIRED

More than 95 percent of them are recycled today because consumers can claim deposits when they return the batteries, and they are relatively simple to dismantle. Lithium-ion battery packs are, by contrast, heavy machines with dozens of components and radically different designs depending on their manufacturer. “The voltages in these batteries are lethal,” says Latham, who trains salvagers just getting started with EVs. “People don’t know the risks involved.”

Extracting the valuable materials from an EV battery is difficult and expensive. The recycling process typically involves shredding batteries, then breaking them down further with heat or chemicals at dedicated facilities. That part is relatively simple. The harder part is getting dead batteries to those facilities from wherever they met their demise. About 40 percent of the overall cost of recycling, according to one recent study, is transportation. EV battery packs are so massive they need to be shipped by truck (not airplane) in specially designed cases, often across vast distances, to reach centralized recycling facilities. Handling lithium-ion batteries is so demanding that dealerships have chosen to ship an entire 4,000-pound damaged vehicle to Oklahoma City, just so SNT can extract and repair or recycle the 1,000-pound battery inside.

In all, the journey is so labor- and resource-intensive that it generally exceeds the costs of digging up new materials from the ground. Currently, the only battery material that can be recycled profitably is cobalt, because it’s just that rare and expensive. For the same reason, many battery makers hope to eliminate it from their chemistries soon, threatening to make the value proposition for recyclers even harder. “Recycling is not going to be profitable for everybody. That’s fantasy economics,” says Leo Raudys, CEO of Call2Recycle, a nonprofit that handles recycling logistics for dead batteries. Even cobalt-free batteries are toxic and a fire danger, though they still contain plenty of valuable materials, like lithium and nickel. But recycling them responsibly is simply less profitable.

Lyriq is saying ~300 miles range and 76 miles in 10 minutes on fast charger, which is decent.  It would be nice to see a chart of time versus recharge for someone, what do you get for 20 minutes?

Electric vehicle market growing more slowly in U.S. than China, Europe | Pew Research Center



Let's imagine somehow we turned on some switch, magically, and half of all new vehicles (cars and LTs) were electric.  A miracle.  To keep it simple, stay at half for ten years.  That would be almost 9 million new vehicles on the road each year that are EVs.  Wow.  Fantastic.  And after ten years, 90 million, which would be about one THIRD of the fleet.  Now, I do think EVs are coming, but slowly, certainly not fast enough to make any short term difference in our oil usage.  (The real curve will of course be more gradual and we might reach that 50% in ten years, which means the above is implausible.)

And we'll need quite a bit more electric power from somewhere as this happens.

Let's imagine somehow we turned on some switch, magically, and half of all new vehicles (cars and LTs) were electric.  A miracle.  To keep it simple, stay at half for ten years.  That would be almost 9 million new vehicles on the road each year that are EVs.  Wow.  Fantastic.  And after ten years, 90 million, which would be about one THIRD of the fleet.  Now, I do think EVs are coming, but slowly, certainly not fast enough to make any short term difference in our oil usage.  (The real curve will of course be more gradual and we might reach that 50% in ten years, which means the above is implausible.)

And we'll need quite a bit more electric power from somewhere as this happens.

As I've said before, my reticence at getting an EV is mostly due to schedule. At the time I needed to buy the Flex (early 2017), the only EV on the market that even remotely met my needs would be the Tesla Model X, and that thing was a $70K+ vehicle, and the charging infrastructure wasn't great--including in my [rented] house where I don't have an L2 charger installed.

My eldest starts HS this year, meaning that about 4 years from now, my passenger-seating needs will start reducing. At that point the Flex will have likely ticked over 100K miles (pending how much WFH continues after the end of the pandemic), and so I'll be in the position to start thinking about a replacement.

My hope is that the F-150 Lightning is a success--I think that would be a great next vehicle. 

Fleetzero’s Container Ship Battery-Swapping Scheme May Help Electrify Shipping

Fleetzero has a plan to reduce shipping emissions.

https://cleantechnica.com/2022/03/18/fleetzeros-container-ship-battery-swapping-scheme-may-help-electrify-shipping/

Heh, I think we can provide slightly over 1 million EVs per year in the US, so that inherent limit applies currently.  That figure appears to be headed up quickly, but it will be a while before it reaches 50% of new car sales.  It's not going to help with gasoline prices any time soon.