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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1610 on: April 24, 2024, 09:21:55 AM »
I saw a Rivian SUV yesterday.  It looked OK from the back, but I walked past it, of course it has the weird headlights.  It was in traffic behind a Tesla 3 at a red light.

Unrelated, the light changed and the first car started off as usual and someone in a Toyota Corolla blew through on red the other way, it was pretty close.

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« Reply #1611 on: April 24, 2024, 11:42:03 AM »
Tesla (TSLA) earnings Q1 2024 (cnbc.com)

If Musk would "shut up", I think it could help.  Where is that solar roof he promised?  The tractor for trailers?  (I know they have one in very small numbers).  Now, the "affordable" EV is on the horizon, apparently.

Maybe that "Powerwall" is a real thing that works and is worth it?  Maybe not.
Musk says a lot. In 2019 he said there'd be 1M Tesla robotaxis on the road in 2020. I've seen more Cybertrucks in the last week than robotaxis have ever existed from Tesla. 

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« Reply #1612 on: April 24, 2024, 01:19:33 PM »
I can't believe how many people bought Cybertrucks.

Even if that number were only twenty-seven, I still wouldn't be able to believe how many people bought Cybertrucks.

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« Reply #1613 on: April 24, 2024, 05:42:08 PM »
Tesla Has Only Delivered 36 Semi Trucks To PepsiCo Since 2017 (insideevs.com)

[color=var(--heading-color-special)]PepsiCo Ordered 100 Tesla Semis In 2017. Tesla Delivered 36 So Far[/color]

[color=var(--heading-color-special)]Tesla built roughly 140 Semis to date, according to historical data and a new report from Reuters.[/color]


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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1615 on: April 25, 2024, 08:40:36 AM »
This is probably obvious to most around here.

Why do electric cars usually have only 1 gear? (motorauthority.com)


One advantage of most EVs is torque, a lot of it, everwhere.  Some folks say this is why they wear tires out faster than an ICEV.


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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1616 on: April 25, 2024, 09:03:42 AM »
Are EVs Really Going to Replace Gasoline-Powered Cars? - Autotrader

EVs remain less than 4% of the vehicles on American roads. Today, the average car in the U.S. is [color=var(--wp--preset--color--blurple-blue-500)]over 12 years old[/iurl], so replacing most vehicles on the road will take many years.[/font][/size][/color]

The California Air Resources Board voted to ban sales of new gas-powered cars by 2035, and some other states plan to follow California’s lead. However, the U.S. Energy Information Administration projects that shifting buyer interest to an EV-majority market might take several decades.

Predictions on consumer acceptance of electric vehicles vary. The CEO of Toyota Motor North America thinks EVs will make up around 30% of the U.S. new vehicle market by 2030. That’s half of what the EPA was seeking last year. Toyota reportedly will let consumer demand guide the automaker’s EV production rather than spend money investing in EVs without customers ready to buy them.



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« Reply #1617 on: April 25, 2024, 09:05:02 AM »
Another prediction is that only about half the cars on the road in the US will be EVs by 2050, 26 years from now.  That looks about right to me.

I idly wonder how long it took for automobiles to be half the vehicles in the US back in the day.  Twenty years?  Maybe not.

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« Reply #1618 on: April 26, 2024, 02:11:20 PM »
Hertz To Sell Off Even More EVs As Depreciation Losses Mount (insideevs.com)

I assume most rental cars are used to fairly long trips, maybe some at the airport are more local.  But you get to a new city, perhaps on an expense account, and you don't know about the charging infrastructure, and you stay with ol' reliable ICE-Vs.

Perhaps this could have been foreseen.

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« Reply #1619 on: April 26, 2024, 02:15:30 PM »
Tesla:

U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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« Reply #1620 on: April 26, 2024, 03:15:06 PM »
Tesla:


Let's take a look at a couple stocks and their 12-month forward PE ratio:

  • Tesla / TSLA 62.9
  • Ford / F 6.22
  • General Motors / GM 4.79
  • Toyota / TM 10.27
  • Honda / HMC 12.98
  • Volkswagen / VWAGY 2.54
  • Merc / MBGYY 5.33
  • BMW / BMWYY 5.87
  • Rivian / RIVN (N/A, losing money so no earnings)

Why in the world would anyone think TSLA is worth that multiple? The forward EPS is $2.58. That's Ford territory ($2.08 forward EPS). Toyota's is over $22. 

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« Reply #1621 on: April 26, 2024, 03:16:58 PM »
For reverence, just about the hottest tech stock in existence right now is NVidia (NVDA). They make the GPUs that are powering all the AI models. 

They're trading at a 31.88 forward multiple. Half that of Tesla. 

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« Reply #1622 on: April 26, 2024, 03:33:49 PM »
Let's take a look at a couple stocks and their 12-month forward PE ratio:

  • Tesla / TSLA 62.9
  • Ford / F 6.22
  • General Motors / GM 4.79
  • Toyota / TM 10.27
  • Honda / HMC 12.98
  • Volkswagen / VWAGY 2.54
  • Merc / MBGYY 5.33
  • BMW / BMWYY 5.87
  • Rivian / RIVN (N/A, losing money so no earnings)

Why in the world would anyone think TSLA is worth that multiple? The forward EPS is $2.58. That's Ford territory ($2.08 forward EPS). Toyota's is over $22.

I have no clue, and I don't trust that at all. I could see TSLA back at $190, maybe? It's at $167 today. Analysists are calling it "hold" for now. I suspect they are right.

At $140 a couple of weeks ago, it may have been a "buy" opportunity.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1623 on: April 26, 2024, 03:46:55 PM »
I won't touch it.  It's akin to a "meme stock", it has "Believers".

 

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