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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #294 on: April 19, 2019, 05:40:56 PM »
94. Florida Atlantic Owls
#6 in Conference USA
What a difference a year makes.  A year ago Lane Kiffin was on his way towards building the next mid-major powerhouse.  His players were calling themselves the best team in Florida.  They had finished 2017 on a ten game winning streak, and were popping up the back end of some 2018 preseason top 25 rankings.  They had games against Oklahoma and Central Florida in September to establish the inside track for the Group of Five New Years Six birth.  Instead, they got rolled twice, losing 63-14 to Oklahoma, and 56-36 to UCF, en route to not only not making a national splash, but not even making a bowl finishing 5th in their division in the worst Conference USA has ever been, closing with a wimper in a home loss to a sub-.500 Charlotte team to ensure there would be no bowl.  Not that it would have likely gone well, the Owls won only 1 game all year against a team with a winning record.  Then they lost three offensive skill position players early to the NFL Draft, one of only 14 teams to lose three or more players early.  I don’t think any of the others finished #95 in the Massey Composite.  The offense put up nearly identical numbers to 2017, fueled by the conference’s best rushing game, with 241.8 ypg.  But both Devin Singletary and backup Kerrith Whyte decided to enter the draft, so the future there is a little more murky.  The solution might be the return of a healthy Tyrek Tisdale.  Tisdale, the one time Florida commit, and subsequently one time Maryland commit, played sparingly in 2017 as a freshman, and missed all of 2018 with knee surgery.  He has the pedigree to be a star, and was ahead of Whyte on the depth chart after spring ball, before missing the year.  It will help if his best lineman, center Junior Diaz, who won Conference USA Newcomer of the Year after transferring from Tulane, wins his petition for a sixth year of eligibility.  Any chance of working their way back to being a factor in the conference race is going to have to come on the defensive side of the ball.  The Owls may have tricked themselves with 10 starters returning from a unit that was maybe more smoke and mirrors in 2017 than actual talent.  The finished third in the conference in scoring defense in 2017, but mostly thank to a top 10 national turnover rate, that masked a subpar yardage number, and allowed the second most passing yards of any defense in the conference.  They only forced 14 turnovers in 2018, including the national low in fumbles forced, and while they had largely similar stats across the board, it resulted in 9 more ppg allowed.  So while maybe they don’t check all of the “returning starters” boxes this year, maybe that’s a good thing.  It seems as though Kiffin is upgrading the talent across the board, the Owls have signed the top class in the conference in two of the past three years, so the inexperienced guys may actually be an upgrade over the vets that got exposed last year.  They better be, five of the six leading tacklers from 2018 are gone, along with the team leaders in sacks.
KEY PLAYERS
QBChris Robison, Sophomore
TEHarrison Bryant, Senior
TBrandon Walton, Senior
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DELeighton McCarthy, Junior
LBRashad Smith, Senior
SZyon Gilbert, Junior
Add B. J. Emmons, RB to your list of key players if FAU has any OL at all. Transfer from Bama. Rivals #1 RB in 2016.
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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #295 on: April 19, 2019, 05:48:59 PM »
So, Arkansas State is ahead of Arkansas, just to put it in context.
And they just got Layne Hatcher, QB who chose Bama over them and Arkansas in 2018.
 
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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #296 on: April 19, 2019, 06:19:57 PM »
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #297 on: April 20, 2019, 11:07:52 AM »
26. Kentucky Wildcats
#8 in SEC
Kentucky showed athletic departments everywhere what is possible with a little patience.  It took six years, but Mark Stoops took over a terrible team, made them respectable by Year 2, a bowl team in Year 4, and then a 10 win team that won the Citrus Bowl and finished #11 in the polls.  It was the best team in Lexington since 1977 went 10-1, but was ineligible for the SEC title or a bowl trip, due to NCAA sanctions, but did finish #6 in the polls.  That bought Stoops a lot of leeway, and while many are expecting him to cash that chip in this year, I’m not so down on the Wildcats.  The offense has a chance to still be very good.  There is no replacing Benny Snell, who left early for the NFL Draft, but Asim Rose looks ready to break out.  He averaged only just under 6 carries per game, but averaged 6.2 ypc on those limited, but not statistically insignificant number of carries.  Now Benny Snell had 289 carries, fourth most in the nation, so those additional touches have to come from somewhere, because it’s doubtful that Rose gets anywhere near that number.  The easy answer is, nobody, that this shifts from being Snell’s offense to being quarterback Terry Wilson’s.  Only 12 teams threw the ball less frequently than Kentucky, and half of them were triple option teams.  Wilson is a dangerous runner, but he showed plenty to evidence that he can handle increased passing responsibilities.  He completed a high number of passes, third highest in the SEC at 67.2% of passes, but a lot of safe, short throws, relying on yards after catch, averaging just 10.7 yards per completion, in the bottom 20 of the FBS.  What is unclear is whether that system was due to Wilson, or due to his receivers, or lack thereof.  Dorian Baker returned from an injury that cost him all of 2017, and looked like a shell of his former self, while Tavin Richardson’s performance declined from his 2017.  Lynn Bowden burst onto the scene.  I’m not entirely sure he’s a receiver, so much as a playmaker, and with Snell in the backfield, splitting him out seemed like the best way to just get the ball in his hands.  He did finish with 67 receptions, the only receiver to tally more than 16.  The graduation of Baker, David Bouvier, and tight end C.J. Conrad, along with Snell’s departure, and Richardson’s transfer, means that after a year of underperformance, Kentucky is actually worse off this year.  The most experienced player aside from Bowden is junior Josh Ali, who had 10 receptions last year.  Justin Rigg, who started two games last year as a true freshman, may develop into a weapon at tight end.  What concerns me more is the defense, that is relying heavily on a linebacking core, which itself is without Josh Allen, depending on whether you count him as a defensive end or linebacker.  The remaining linemen all return, but aside from Allen, there wasn’t a ton of production there, even with Allen drawing double teams.  Kentucky’s defense ranked #5 nationally in sack rate, without a single other lineman tallying more than 3 sacks.  The secondary graduates all four starters from a group that was solid, but not spectacular.  They were sound tacklers, who gave up a lot of completions, and didn’t force many turnovers, but did a good job of limiting yardage, and hoping eventually they’d get a sack to put their opponent behind the sticks.  The linebackers have a chance to be very special though.  Kash Daniel, in his first year in the middle of that defense, proved to be Kentucky’s best run stopper, a sound tackler, and Jamar Watson, a pass rush specialist, can now fill Josh Allen’s role.  He was second on the team in sacks a year ago, despite only getting limited play time.  Then you have DeAndre Square, an outstanding cover linebacker, a converted safety, who was forced into a starting role in the Citrus Bowl, and responded with 6 tackles and a sack.  Fellow true sophomore Chris Oats looked solid in a backup role as a true freshman, and looks primed for a bigger task.  More than anything, Kentucky has been dipping into the guys that Michigan State was landing earlier in Dantonio’s tenure.  A lot of these names I recognize as 3* Ohio players who don’t warrant an Ohio State offer, but are now picking Kentucky over Michigan State.  There are 20 Ohio players on the roster.  While I don’t see a repeat of the school’s best season in over 40 years, I don’t think they are going to fade away again either.
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QBTerry Wilson, Junior
RBAsim Rose, Junior
WRLynn Bowden, Junior
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LBKash Daniel, Senior
LBJamar Watson, Junior
SDavonte Robinson, Junior

25. Miami Hurricanes
#3 in ACC
What a weird couple of years in Coral Gables.  Alum Mark Richt comes in, takes a team with no expectations up to #2 in the nation on Thanksgiving, on the cusp of the Playoff, but loses three in a row.  Then takes a team with solid expectations in 2018, loses four in a row in the middle of the season, doesn’t even get bowl eligible until the second to last game, and then resigns after the season.  7-6 considering the schedule, where the only two ranked teams were LSU on a neutral field, and Pitt at home, is really bad, but the talent remains.  After being the Temple head coach for less than three weeks, Manny Diaz returned to Miami as head coach, after serving as defensive coordinator for the past three years.  And the defense was more than fine, even last year.  While the turnover chain got all the attention (and it was FAR too much oversaturation, and far too often imitated), the defense as a whole was outstanding.  It was actually even better last year, when they finished #2 in the nation in total defense, and led the nation in tackles for loss and pass defense, allowing just 140 yards per game.  The defense should continue to shine, with 3 All-ACC players returning.  The loss of Sheldrick Redwine from safety hurts, the converted cornerback allowed Miami to match him up on receivers without issue, but Trajan Bandy returns, as Miami’s best defensive back.  It’s the early departure of Joe Jackson that hurts more, the Hurricanes best pass rusher on the line, from a team that thrived on creating pressure.  The compensation will be a group of linebackers that might be the best in the nation at attacking the quarterback, while still holding opponents to just 3.5 ypc on the ground.  In 2017 the offense did enough, and they took advantage of all the turnovers.  While the defense was still creating turnovers in 2018, the offense was giving the ball right back, with the most turnovers in the ACC, falling from #5 nationally in turnover margin to #85.  So turnovers are why Miami only ran 66 plays per game, and why they were second worst in the ACC in total offense, but even per play they were in the bottom third of the league, thanks to a non existent passing game.  Mark Richt could have handled it better.  He insisted senior Malik Rosier was his guy, until he kept underperforming.  Then Richt went with redshirt freshman N’Kosi Perry, until he struggled.  Rather than let the freshman learn, he went back to the departing senior in a meaningless Pinstripe Bowl.  Having two quarterbacks who struggle to throw the ball, and then not letting either one gain momentum is how you end up in the bottom 20 in the nation in yards per attempt and interception percentage, worst in the ACC in both.  Perry was expecting a challenge from redshirt freshman Jarren Williams, a top 100 recruit from 2018, but Miami also added Ohio State transfer Tate Martell, who was granted a waiver...because...Justin Fields got one too?  To show how Miami fans feel about Perry, a Miami SB Nation blog with over 2,000 votes, presumably mostly Miami fans, had Perry finish 3rd among their five quarterbacks, for who should start in 2019.  Whoever wins it, has some pretty good weapons to throw to, the strength of this Miami offense.  It got a boost when Jeff Thomas, who led the team in receiving last year, despite being dismissed from the program prior to the final three games, did an about face on his plans to transfer to Illinois State, and announced he has been reinstated, because that’s the way the U operates when anybody but Mark Richt is in charge.  Lawrence Cager taking a grad transfer to Georgia hurts, but Mike Harley is undersized, but maybe the most dangerous of the bunch.  Brevin Jordan, who was maybe the best tight end in the conference last year as a freshman, could be in line for an even bigger year, reunited with his high school quarterback, Martell; and a new offensive coordinator in Dan Enos, who should make an even more concerted effort to get the ball to the tight end.
KEY PLAYERS
WRJeff Thomas, Senior
TEBrevin Jordan, Sophomore
GNavaughn Donaldson, Junior
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LBShaquille Quarterman, Senior
LBMichael Pinckney, Senior
CBTrajan Bandy, Junior

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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #298 on: April 20, 2019, 11:16:19 AM »
#93 Oregon State #83 Colorado #72 UCLA #71 Arizona #61 USCw #56 California  #43 Arizona State  #40 Stanford
#92 Arkansas #78 Ole Miss  #58 Vanderbilt #41 Tennessee  #34 Missouri  #29 South Carolina (USCe) #26 Kentucky
#108 Kansas #62 Kansas State  $54 Texas Tech #49 Oklahoma State #47 Baylor #39 TCU  #36 West Virginia
#102 Rutger #91 Illinoi #65 Maryland  #53 Indiana #51 Nebraska  #44 Purdue  #32 Minnesota  #31 Michigan State  #28 Northwestern
#81 Louisville #74 UNC #64 Georgia Tech #52 Virginia Tech #59 Wake Forest #50 NCSU  #48 Duke  #46 FSU  #42 Pitt #38 Boston College #37 UVA #25 Miami

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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #299 on: April 20, 2019, 02:17:52 PM »
So ELA's Top 25 has...

7 SEC
5 Big Ten (although one of them is the Wolverines) 
4 Pac 12
3 Big XII
3 ACC (Miami at 25)
2 AAC
1 Independent
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #300 on: April 20, 2019, 02:25:33 PM »
29. South Carolina Gamecocks
#9 in SEC
Nobody is more underrated than a touted quarterback who proves to be mediocre.  You’d think Bentley was absolute trash, instead he’s a guy who finished fourth in the SEC in yards per attempt, and fifth in Passer Rating.  It’s the interceptions that draw the ire of Gamecocks fans most though.  He had 14 of them, four more than any other SEC quarterback, coming off a year where he had 12.  
This is the most true thing. I might not even use the word mediocre, I'd go with decent to good. 
Granted Ws and Ls and such. 

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« Reply #301 on: April 21, 2019, 10:39:46 AM »
24. Washington Huskies
#4 in Pac 12
It’s been a while since the football in Seattle was this consistently good, but since Chris Peterson got his program up and running in Year 3, few have been better.  Over the past three years, Washington has won two conference titles, gone to three New Years Six bowls, including a Rose Bowl, and had the fifth best winning percentage among Power Five teams, trailing only Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Oklahoma.  But he hasn’t faced a task like this.  #24 overall, and #4 in the Pac 12 may seem low for a coach and a program who have earned more benefit of the doubt than this.  But honestly, even ranking them this high makes me nervous.  The offense loses their entire starting backfield, including four year starter, and former Pac 12 Player of the Year, quarterback Jake Browning; and the school’s all-time leading rusher (by 1,300 yards), Myles Gaskin, who had four 1,200 yard seasons, and sits at #13 all-time in NCAA history.  Gaskins replacement is less concerning, Salvon Ahmed was arguably better last year, averaging nearly a full yard per carry more, although getting less than half of Gaskins’ carries.  That, durability, is the biggest question.  Gaskin only missed two games in his four years, totalling 945 carries.  He gets to run behind a line that surprisingly has four starters back, with Trey Adams electing to return.  The one time sure fire first round NFL pick has dealt with injuries the past two seasons, and decided to prove he was healthy, rather than cut his losses and see what he can get now.  You have Ahmed, behind that line, with a very unsettled quarterback situation, and while the Huskies already ran the ball more often than any Pac 12 team, you might see that number tick up, even without Gaskin.  The problem is finding someone to share carries with.  Quarterback is far less settled.  Jake Haener was the backup a year ago, but may find himself down at fourth or fifth on the depth chart this year behind three freshmen and a transfer.  Peterson was able to redshirt both of his top 100 quarterback recruits a year ago.  Jacob Sirmon is the better passer, but Colson Yankoff offers more running ability, which is what Washington has had success with from Tuiososopo to Locker to Browning.  Then the Huskies added another top 100 recruit this year in Dylan Morris, who is already enrolled and competing in spring drills.  Throw former blue chip Jacob Eason into the mix, who was a former starter at Georgia, who lost his job to Jake Fromm, and you have a ton of raw talent, but very little proven on the field.  Far more concerning is what will happen with the defense, what has been Washington’s bread and butter.  They’ve led the conference in scoring and total defense in each of the past two years, but had six seniors graduate, and a pair of defensive backs declare early for the draft, leaving them with only three returning starters, and that’s if you count nickelback Myles Bryant, who in fairness was all-conference, as were SIX Husky defensive backs.  Elijah Moldon has a ton of raw ability, and is already an elite returner, but they are going to need him to go from the 5th or 6th corner in the rotation, to locking down one of the two starting jobs.  All in all, based on Bill Connolly’s metrics, Washington lost 64% of their defensive production from last season, the most of any school in the country.  Surprisingly, nobody poached either co-coordinator, either for a head coaching job, or to pay them for defensive autonomy, so at least coaching continuity continues.
KEY PLAYERS
WRAaron Fuller, Senior
TTrey Adams, Senior
CNick Harris, Senior
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DTLevi Onwuzurike, Junior
CBMyles Bryant, Senior
CBElijah Molden, Junior

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Re: ELA 2019 Countdown
« Reply #302 on: April 21, 2019, 11:46:20 AM »
Jacob Eason fascinates me because he was by most measures kinda bad the last time he played, but also hasn't played in nearly two full years.

Would be unsurprised if he ends up a double transfer.

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« Reply #303 on: April 21, 2019, 12:57:54 PM »
Eason did "OK" as a freshman, his first outing as a sophomore was a brief struggle against Appy State before he went down.  Obviously he never could dislodge Fromm once that happened.  Eason is kind of like Matt Stafford.  Tough situation for him if he does not start.

Someone whose name starts with "J" appears likely to start.

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« Reply #304 on: April 21, 2019, 05:07:43 PM »
Eason did "OK" as a freshman, his first outing as a sophomore was a brief struggle against Appy State before he went down.  Obviously he never could dislodge Fromm once that happened.  Eason is kind of like Matt Stafford.  Tough situation for him if he does not start.

Someone whose name starts with "J" appears likely to start.
I get that h's getting graded on a curve because he's a freshman. 
He had a lower passer rating than nine of GT's last 11 leading passers. And he edged No. 10 120.2-119.1. (Also, holy hell was Stafford bad as a freshman too. Kinda a miracle they got to 9 wins)

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« Reply #305 on: April 21, 2019, 05:46:00 PM »
I don't think it makes sense to look at GT QB passer ratings, at all.  Both Stafford and Eason played like talented freshmen, as expected.

There was rumor that Fromm was pushing Eason hard and Eason won the start just because he was senior, etc., much as Fields was rumored to be pushing Fromm hard last year.  Fromm never looks great but he beat out two five stars.

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« Reply #306 on: April 21, 2019, 10:50:28 PM »
I don't think it makes sense to look at GT QB passer ratings, at all.  Both Stafford and Eason played like talented freshmen, as expected.

There was rumor that Fromm was pushing Eason hard and Eason won the start just because he was senior, etc., much as Fields was rumored to be pushing Fromm hard last year.  Fromm never looks great but he beat out two five stars.
I mean, you seem to have a low opinion of the option offense. And the kid delivered option passing efficiency with no running threat and a pretty decent set of skill guys (can't speak to the line). I know he's got the arm, but that YPA was just awful.
Interesting that Fromm doesn't look great. He kinda feels like mildly better Scott Tolzien. Like he's very good at getting the ball to the good players. I assume they'll bring in some other five-star soon enough. Mathis seems ... fine. 

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« Reply #307 on: April 22, 2019, 08:07:19 AM »
The old GT offense threw the ball so sparingly that receivers were bound to be open, often, so it isn't IMHO a good comparison to view their QBRs in the absence of that context versus a QB running a more balanced offense.  Fromm doesn't WOW anyone, he runs the offense and makes the throws (usually) needed.  He does not have one specific WOW talent other than being a student of the game.  When I watch, I may think "Nice pass" but with a Stafford or Eason type, I'd think "WOW!" after some passes (and CRAP! after others).

Fromm is akin to a David Greene or Aaron Murray passer.  And of course that usually works fine in what remains a run heavy offense (not nearly as run heavy as GT's was, it will be interesting to see how GT manages with a "normal" offense).

I think freshmen QBs with "Big Arms" are so used to making throws against HS defenses that it takes them a while to understand the speed of the college game and those "windows" are not really there even with a rifle.  I read a couple articles about Eason that suggests he will be their starter in UDubb.  Fields will likely start at OSU.

I just found this which sort of mirrors my thoughts above:

https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Jake-Fromm-NFL-Draft-Justin-Herbert-Oregon-Georgia-Mel-Kiper-131394676/?fbclid=IwAR3HTsBa6gltaexuX3UCVZ0oEzKd3EfU8TyXjncNPa0vZb7X_h6QOM7ZW_8

They see Fromm as a first round pick, which is perhaps a bit optimistic.

"My comp for him would be Drew Brees. Drew Brees’ arm got stronger once he got in the NFL with the Chargers and the Saints. Jake Fromm will probably go a little higher than that. He’ll be a first-round pick, but the arm strength is the only issue that could prevent him from going a little higher than maybe his press clippings indicate.”
Fromm’s sophomore season ended with 30 touchdowns to just six interceptions with a 67.4 percent completion rate and 2,761 passing yards."
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