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Riley needs to upset the Ducks in Oregon

I know he's motivated

After the Week 5 USC loss it'll be #2, #3, #4 and #7

wish i had the old site thread with all of you guys complaining about sec bias when they had 3 of top 5 in the bcs or cfp poll in the middle of the season a few years back.

wish i had the old site thread with all of you guys complaining about sec bias when they had 3 of top 5 in the bcs or cfp poll in the middle of the season a few years back.

4 of the top 7 is less strong evidence of bias when you also have like 4 of the top 40.  When it's 4 of 7 and 7 of 20, that's different.

IIRC that was more the complaint, not how high the top teams were ranked but how high the middle, even low middle teams were, so that no matter who you played it was a "good" win/loss so temas could never drop, because even playing the 9th best team in the conference was a ranked opponent.

ACC
ATLANTIC
Florida State (3-0) 4-1
Louisville (2-0) 5-0
NC State (1-1) 4-1
Wake Forest (1-1) 3-2
Clemson (1-2) 3-2
Syracuse (0-1) 3-2
Boston College (0-2) 3-2

COASTAL
Georgia Tech (2-0) 5-0
Virginia Tech (1-0) 5-0
Miami (1-1) 4-1
North Carolina (1-2) 3-2
Virginia (0-0) 2-2
Pittsburgh (0-1) 2-3
Duke (0-2) 2-3

BIG XII
Oklahoma State (2-0) 5-0
Oklahoma (1-0) 3-1
Kansas State (1-0) 3-1
Texas (1-0) 3-1
West Virginia (1-0) 3-1
Iowa State (0-1) 2-2
TCU (0-1) 2-2
Texas Tech (0-1) 2-2
Kansas (0-1) 1-3
Baylor (0-2) 2-3

BIG TEN
EAST
Ohio State (2-0) 5-0
Penn State (2-0) 5-0
Michigan (1-0) 4-0
Maryland (0-1) 2-2
Michigan State (0-1) 1-3
Indiana (0-2) 3-2
Rutgers (0-2) 1-4

WEST
Nebraska (2-0) 4-1
Wisconsin (1-0) 4-0
Minnesota (1-0) 3-1
Iowa (1-1) 4-1
Northwestern (0-1) 3-1
Illinois (0-1) 1-3
Purdue (0-1) 1-3

PAC 12
NORTH
Washington State (2-0) 5-0
Oregon (2-0) 4-1
Stanford (2-1) 4-1
Washington (1-1) 4-1
California (0-2) 2-3
Oregon State (0-2) 2-3

SOUTH
Colorado (2-0) 5-0
Utah (1-0) 3-1
USC (2-1) 4-1
Arizona (0-1) 2-2
Arizona State (0-2) 1-4
UCLA (0-2) 1-4

SEC
EAST
Florida (3-0) 4-1
South Carolina (2-1) 3-2
Georgia (1-1) 4-1
Tennessee (1-1) 3-2
Vanderbilt (0-2) 3-2
Kentucky (0-2) 3-2
Missouri (0-2) 2-2

WEST
Alabama (2-0) 5-0
Texas A&M (2-0) 5-0
Auburn (2-0) 4-1
LSU (1-0) 5-0
Arkansas (0-1) 3-1
Ole Miss (0-1) 2-2
Mississippi State (0-3) 2-3

AMERICAN
EAST
South Florida (3-0) 6-0
Central Florida (0-1) 2-3
Cincinnati (0-1) 2-3
East Carolina (0-1) 1-3
Temple (0-2) 2-3
Connecticut (0-2) 1-3

WEST
Memphis (1-0) 5-0
Houston (1-0) 5-0
SMU (1-0) 4-1
Tulsa (1-0) 3-2
Navy (2-1) 3-1
Tulane (0-1) 2-2

CONFERENCE USA
EAST
FIU (2-0) 3-2
Western Kentucky (1-0) 4-0
Middle Tennessee (1-0) 2-3
Old Dominion (0-0) 2-2
Marshall (0-0) 1-3
Charlotte (0-1) 2-3
Florida Atlantic (0-1) 1-4

WEST
Southern Miss (1-0) 2-2
UTEP (1-0) 1-4
North Texas (1-1) 2-3
UTSA (0-0) 2-2
UAB (0-1) 2-2
Louisiana Tech (0-1) 2-3
Rice (0-2) 0-5

MAC
EAST
Bowling Green (1-0) 2-3
Kent State (1-0) 2-3
Miami(Ohio) (0-1) 3-2
Ohio (0-1) 3-2
Buffalo (0-1) 2-3
Akron (0-1) 1-4

WEST
Western Michigan (1-0) 4-1
Eastern Michigan (1-0) 3-1
Central Michigan (1-0) 3-2
Toledo (0-0) 3-1
Northern Illinois (0-0) 1-3
Ball State (0-1) 2-3

MOUNTAIN WEST
MOUNTAIN
Wyoming (1-0) 4-1
Boise State (1-0) 3-1
New Mexico (1-1) 3-2
Air Force (1-1) 2-2
Colorado State (0-1) 2-3
Utah State (0-1) 1-4

PACIFIC
Fresno State (1-0) 2-2
UNLV (1-0) 2-2
San Jose State (1-1) 2-4
Hawaii (1-1) 2-3
San Diego State (0-1) 3-2
Nevada (0-1) 1-4

SUN BELT
Appalachian State (1-0) 3-1
Idaho (1-0) 3-1
Troy (1-0) 3-2
Louisiana (1-0) 2-2
UL Monroe (1-1) 2-3
Georgia Southern (0-0) 1-2
Arkansas State (0-0) 1-3
Georgia State (0-0) 1-3
Coastal Carolina (0-1) 2-2
NM State (0-1) 1-4
South Alabama (0-1) 1-4
Texas State (0-1) 1-4

INDEPENDENTS
Army (3-2)
BYU (3-2)
Notre Dame (3-2)
Massachusetts (1-5)

October 1 Poll
2. OHIO STATE (5-0)
3. PENN STATE (5-0)
4. MICHIGAN (4-0)
7. WISCONSIN (4-0)
8. Oklahoma State (5-0)
14. Oklahoma (3-1)
24. Texas (3-1)

Looking at the B12 and B1G teams in your projected October 1 Poll it strikes me that the OU/tOSU game is VASTLY more important to the Sooners and the B12 than it is to the Buckeyes and the B1G:


From the perspective of the Buckeyes:  If the Buckeyes were to lose to OU then you could probably roughly trade places between Ohio State and Oklahoma.  A #14 ranked 3-1 Ohio State, would still be very much in the playoff picture with opportunities to prove themselves against #3 PSU, #4 Michigan, and #7 Wisconsin. 


From the perspective of the B1G:  There would still be two teams in the top-4, another very close, and a fourth close enough to get in.  Moreover, if any other B1G team were to win the conference they would get major rankings boosts from wins over some of those teams so the B1G would still be VERY involved in the CFP race. 


From the perspective of the Sooners:  They have only the OkSU game to improve their profile but they'll still need help.  With the loss to Ohio State they will likely find themselves behind the B1G Champion in the CFP pecking order either because it is the Ohio State team that they lost to or because it is a team that beat Ohio State.  They'll also likely be behind the SEC and ACC Champions which leaves them needing the P12 Champion to be a weak team. 


From the perspective of the B12:  They are basically out of the CFP conversation unless/until the higher ranked conference leaders get beat. 

feel free to complain about the new Big Ten bias


crazy ESPN is at fault

nah, i think it's the contract they have with ela to run the "tournament" (cough cough**rigged**cough cough) at the end of the season.