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Topic: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns

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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2017, 06:43:12 PM »
And, incidentally, while I didn't get to see the Iowa-Florida debacle. I did see enough games where Beathard played hurt as a junior where I thought he should be on the sidelines, and felt much the same way as Cunningham. I wasn't thinking someone would take a cheap shot at his head, but when Beathard is relatively immobile, that someone might cause him some other injury that would sideline him for the next few weeks, if not the season.

In the MLB they basically tell you if you have a pulled muscle in your leg, you are on the disabled list 15-days, and that usually means 3-weeks off until you recover. The speculation in the 2015 season (when Iowa started out 12-0) was Beathard had a pulled groin muscle. He was immobile in the Northwestern game, and I was shocked to see him being played in that game, at all. He may have had a pulled groin, or he may not have -- in the off-season during 2016 Beathard had sports hernia surgery which seems to me probably even more serious.

My own thoughts are that NCAA football needs to look at what other sports do to rest injuries.

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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2017, 06:58:06 PM »
I admire him for taking a principled stance.

As I've said many times on [the previous] board, this is one of those issues that really concerns me. And there's a portion of me that says I should stop watching and supporting it. I really do feel that football, at particularly the collegiate and professional level, is destroying brains. Yet I still watch.

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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2017, 07:07:24 PM »
Good post, bwar.

Good post.

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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2017, 07:32:07 AM »

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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2017, 07:49:19 AM »
I admire him for taking a principled stance.

As I've said many times on [the previous] board, this is one of those issues that really concerns me. And there's a portion of me that says I should stop watching and supporting it. I really do feel that football, at particularly the collegiate and professional level, is destroying brains. Yet I still watch.
The more we learn the less I feel bad for guys going in eyes wide open.
That said, if this is their only path to a college scholarship or to a lucrative NFL career, I feel bad that this was their one way out, and I support it.
I will say, the amount I follow/care about football has certainly waned over the past 5 or so years, and this is part of it.

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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2017, 12:04:55 PM »
I keep hearing the #'s of kids trying out of pee-wee football is declining.   Kids are being encouraged to take up other sports.  

While I don't see football losing the #1 spot for popularity, I can't help but think the gap will be closed. 

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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2017, 12:07:39 PM »
I keep hearing the #'s of kids trying out of pee-wee football is declining.   Kids are being encouraged to take up other sports.  

While I don't see football losing the #1 spot for popularity, I can't help but think the gap will be closed.  
Lots of people like watching it, who won't let their kids play, me included.
Then my kids' generation will have not played it, and will probably like it far less.
Then it will be dead.
Same path boxing took, granted PPV and the failure of the sport to shift from being so heavyweight class focused once that class became awful didn't help.

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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2017, 12:37:38 PM »
Heh, I say the thread title, and wondered how you could possibly get head trauma from broadcasting. 
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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2017, 12:42:42 PM »
ELA.. agree.   I didn't believe it until I started volunteering at my kids grade school, but this "next" generation doesn't follow football like we did.   I live in the KC metro I saw more soccer jerseys/shirts (mostly international) than I saw pro football (except for chiefs Fridays).   It actually stood out and a few teachers told me they see the same thing.  They also see more baseball than they did 10 years ago.   I thought that was interesting too.

That doesn't mean football will go away, but other sports are going to catch up in popularity. 

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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2017, 01:19:29 PM »
I keep hearing the #'s of kids trying out of pee-wee football is declining.   Kids are being encouraged to take up other sports.  

While I don't see football losing the #1 spot for popularity, I can't help but think the gap will be closed.  
Lots of people like watching it, who won't let their kids play, me included.
Then my kids' generation will have not played it, and will probably like it far less.
Then it will be dead.
Same path boxing took, granted PPV and the failure of the sport to shift from being so heavyweight class focused once that class became awful didn't help.

No way I'd let my kids play. If they don't make anything of their football career, it's basically taking an unnecessary risk with their brains and jeopardizing their ability to excel in the workplace as an adult because they may develop cognitive issues. If they did end up in the NFL (long shot), they'd be trading health for money, and I'd rather not outlive my children or see one of them battling depression and cognitive decline in their 40's due to CTE. 

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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2017, 01:55:05 PM »
No way I'd let my kids play. If they don't make anything of their football career, it's basically taking an unnecessary risk with their brains and jeopardizing their ability to excel in the workplace as an adult because they may develop cognitive issues. If they did end up in the NFL (long shot), they'd be trading health for money, and I'd rather not outlive my children or see one of them battling depression and cognitive decline in their 40's due to CTE.
No way I'd let my kids play. If they don't make anything of their football career, it's basically taking an unnecessary risk with their brains and jeopardizing their ability to excel in the workplace as an adult because they may develop cognitive issues. If they did end up in the NFL (long shot), they'd be trading health for money, and I'd rather not outlive my children or see one of them battling depression and cognitive decline in their 40's due to CTE.
I do have a question for you.....  if you feel this strongly about it, why do you still watch other kids risk their health?

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Re: Ed Cunningham resigns from ESPN over head trauma concerns
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2017, 01:58:18 PM »
that's not an attack btw... honest question.

I struggle a bit too..  My "watching" has declined a lot.  In fact, I rarely watch the NFL anymore.   I know a lot of people who played HS football and there appears to be no issues.  But the longer you play.. well, it's a conflict for me.   I love the sport.  Love the hits.   I understand the risks.   I'm hoping they find ways to make head injuries safer and less of an occurrence without changing the sport to 7 on 7 drills. 
« Last Edit: August 31, 2017, 02:00:24 PM by Entropy »

 

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