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Topic: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2021, 10:44:25 PM »
Ryan Benjamin, Pacific - look him up
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2021, 12:20:19 AM »
I remember eating at Misty's the night before a UoPacific at Nebraska game, the game Frazier suffered his blood clot injury.   We were hanging w some Pacific fans that made the trip.  Cool folks. My brother says the winner of Pacific v Nebraska will win the title.   He was right, both years.   Frazier played just nine plays leaving w a calf bruise.  I recall 49-0 halftime.  70-21. I think 16 guys had carries that game. The '95 game was 49-7 or something.   Pacific dropped football after that season. 
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2021, 06:22:32 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 22, 2021, 03:27:37 PM
And even then, it's a multi-part saga.

My state just passed a bill over one of the most basic contentious issues. It immediately gets blocked by the courts, as it goes against supreme court precedent. Then my state gets to drop several mil to appeal it up to the Supreme Court, where if has been slapped back to this point, though that might change. Oh, and multiple states do this multiple times, hoping to be the one to get their name on a landmark reversal, if it happens.

But man, folks get all the PR along the way.
Soon, the Governor will learn the move- just sign an “Executive Order” and even the craziest and most unpopular ideas can come to life.  
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2021, 06:37:34 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 22, 2021, 03:24:26 PM
... Should they?

I mean, I love college sports. But it's mostly a massive marketing arm, which is nice to have, but probably also adds considerably to the bloat of post-secondary education we have in this country. If a school wanted to move toward being more of a school and less of brand, I don't know what the great argument against it is.

(The language reads broad in the bill, which suggests it's just PR fluff. Private schools would sue, at least one would, and it would be a whole damn thing)
Donna Shalala thought so.
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2021, 08:39:26 AM »
Can we give California to Mexico? Is that an option? 
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2021, 08:39:57 AM »
Put a call into Lex Luthor maybe.
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2021, 08:49:09 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 22, 2021, 03:24:26 PM
... Should they?

I mean, I love college sports. But it's mostly a massive marketing arm, which is nice to have, but probably also adds considerably to the bloat of post-secondary education we have in this country. If a school wanted to move toward being more of a school and less of brand, I don't know what the great argument against it is.
C'mon you don't want the NFL digging into it's own pockets for a minor league do you?They could probably fire Roger Goodall and implement that this spring with the larceny that is his contract
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2021, 09:38:11 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 23, 2021, 08:39:26 AM
Can we give California to Mexico? Is that an option?
No, but if it was, you could get many more Californian neighbors. 
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2021, 09:44:46 AM »
That's already happening, no?
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2021, 09:49:25 AM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 23, 2021, 06:37:34 AM
Donna Shalala thought so.
She did. And she had vision for the place she was at. 

But to a degree, it's a zero-sum game, and some places are never gonna get that sum. I grew up a stone's throw from UC Berkeley. I love that place as a part of my upbringing. But even if Cal becomes a power as great as old USC or Oregon, it likely isn't gonna be a Wisconsin in terms of regional focus. And the issue is Cal loading up on spending just spurs more spending at USC and Oregon (thus, our endless arms race to hold onto a status quo). 

Then there's the larger question of if building eight-figure buildings to impress children is all that useful. Let's put it another way, Big Jim always threatened that if the money got too big, he'd want to go like the Ivys. Well, this would push one set of schools more like the Ivys. 

(I'm not saying it's good or bad or would or wouldn't happen, but that the argument for "we need to keep up this system that has coaches as the highest paid public employees in states" seems rather thin)
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2021, 09:50:41 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 23, 2021, 09:44:46 AM
That's already happening, no?
I was under the impression it was some more. But such a move would increate the rate many fold.

Externalities, man. 
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2021, 09:53:39 AM »
Most are retirees who are well past procreation age, so at least they aren't polluting the local gene pool.

They are coming here to die.   
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2021, 09:54:52 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on February 23, 2021, 06:22:32 AM
Soon, the Governor will learn the move- just sign an “Executive Order” and even the craziest and most unpopular ideas can come to life. 
Ehh, it's probably a net popular move. It sound good, accomplishes nothing except headlines (for now) and people don't realize the money that goes to that could go somewhere better (like schools or something). 
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2021, 09:55:47 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 23, 2021, 09:53:39 AM
Most are retirees who are well past procreation age, so at least they aren't polluting the local gene pool.

They are coming here to die. 

Goals.
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