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Topic: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #126 on: February 23, 2021, 08:11:23 PM »



But the impression we get is that you were saying "California is dangerous" rather than "certain neighborhoods in certain parts of California are dangerous", which are two VERY different things.

OF COURSE certain parts of California are dangerous, just as certain parts of Ohio are dangerous. I'll bet if you look at Utah, there are certain parts of the metro SLC area that are dangerous.

And... Quite frankly, nowhere is "safe", even your little slice of heaven in Southern UT. For all you know, some serial killer might be planning your demise right now. To be fair, the ODDS are much lower where you live than elsewhere, but it's still not 100% safe.

As Otter said, can you really blame an entire state for a few bad apples? I'm not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America, sir!


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Yeah, SLC is definitely a dump. That's where the bulk of those crime statistics most likely originate, along with Ogden and other regional cities. (No, not ALL of SLC is a dump.) It is also a bright blue island in a sea of red, so that doesn't help.

Most of the crime that goes on here in SW Utah is committed by people who are passing through on I-15. So they are quite likely Californians, although they might have only come from Vegas. O0

My aged Aunt lives in Central Utah, and her primary form of entertainment is to sit there and listen to the police scanner for hours on end. It is actually quite comical listening to what they have to waste their time doing, since there isn't any actual crime.

If someone got mugged there, they'd get to the bottom of it instead of being all like "well that sucks. Give us a call if it happens again. We won't actually do anything, but at least all your neighbors will brand you as a 'snitch' which will make you an even bigger target than you already are. Good luck."

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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #127 on: February 23, 2021, 08:18:18 PM »
You get used to it. Air conditioning is your friend, and I always say- it's A LOT easier to just wear shorts and a t-shirt and sandals than it is to wear 3 layers of clothes, snow shoes, a giant coat, hat, gloves, a scarf, another hat, another pair of gloves, and another scarf.

F#$K the cold. F##k the snow. F##k the ice. The north is literally a depressing shithole where the sky is literally grey and depressing 3/4ths of the year. Plus most places up there- there just isn't anything to do. Aside from like Chicago or New York there just isn't anything cool to do/see in that entire region. It sucks. Hate to say it but they call them flyover states for a reason. That reason: they suck.
I'm sure I would, but I mostly hate air conditioning, and on a day to day basis I'm not sure what anyone is doing that is all that different from anyone else.  Bradford in Cali is playing golf and cooking BBQ, and Badge in Florida is tooling on his boat and cooking spaghetti, and I hate golf and might get a boat, but any way you slice it there ain't much going on in one part of the country that you can't find somewhere else.

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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #128 on: February 23, 2021, 08:27:39 PM »

You'll be delighted to know that your comparison of polygamists to urban gangstas isn't completely unfounded.

Both groups have been known to break out into a mean game of street ball.








I think I compared them in the sense that both situations were wild exaggerations of the actual facts on the ground. 

But anyway, no need to discriminate against our polygamist or urban brethren. 

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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #129 on: February 23, 2021, 08:29:01 PM »
I'm sure I would, but I mostly hate air conditioning, and on a day to day basis I'm not sure what anyone is doing that is all that different from anyone else.  Bradford in Cali is playing golf and cooking BBQ, and Badge in Florida is tooling on his boat and cooking spaghetti, and I hate golf and might get a boat, but any way you slice it there ain't much going on in one part of the country that you can't find somewhere else.
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #130 on: February 23, 2021, 08:37:47 PM »
AC is the best use of my money when it comes to actual satisfaction in my life. I say this with no reservations. Had a place with bad AC for a year, went to one with good AC, whooo boy.
Don't get me wrong, AC feels great when it's hot as hell outside. But it doesn't have much soul and I'm never quite far away from remembering my pleasure is being powered by a heat exchanger.  I'm happiest when the windows are open and you can feel the breeze through the house, and sitting on the porch is just sitting in another room in the house.

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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #131 on: February 23, 2021, 08:42:03 PM »
I think I compared them in the sense that both situations were wild exaggerations of the actual facts on the ground.

But anyway, no need to discriminate against our polygamist or urban brethren.

You can actually spend the night in the Warren Jeffs house, which is kind of insane.

No, I haven't done it.


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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #132 on: February 23, 2021, 08:46:48 PM »
You can actually spend the night in the Warren Jeffs house, which is kind of insane.

No, I haven't done it.



I wonder who owns it. I'd like to thing victims leveraging it for restitution, but who knows?

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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #133 on: February 23, 2021, 09:09:28 PM »
I wonder who owns it. I'd like to thing victims leveraging it for restitution, but who knows?
Well it is a long story, and it's not very entertaining.

The gist of it is that his former body guard won it in a settlement, after starting up a rival sect.
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #134 on: February 23, 2021, 09:18:17 PM »
Well it is a long story, and it's not very entertaining.

The gist of it is that his former body guard won it in a settlement, after starting up a rival sect.
Well that is less than ideal. 

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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #135 on: February 23, 2021, 09:30:57 PM »
Well that is less than ideal.
Well his "victims" refused to participate in his prosecution, mostly because they didn't consider themselves to be "victims."

Like I said, it's a long story.
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #136 on: February 23, 2021, 09:32:32 PM »
Well his "victims" refused to participate in his prosecution, mostly because they didn't consider themselves to be "victims."

Like I said, it's a long story.
I was reading up on some of it. What a long story. 

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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #137 on: February 23, 2021, 10:18:15 PM »
I was reading up on some of it. What a long story.

Yeah, when the government tries to bust one of these groups up all it does is cause them to splinter into smaller and smaller groups that each operate independently, making them much more difficult to track. At that point one "problem" all of a sudden becomes multiple "problems." 

There is really not much left of the original FLDS. Mostly just Warren Jeffs friends and family, and they are all hiding out in some compound up in South Dakota. The ones who are still here no longer have any affiliation with Jeffs or the FLDS. They either joined one of these other sects, or they went rogue. 

It is both endlessly fascinating, and mind numbingly boring, all at the same time. But they are mostly just a bunch of dumb potato farmers, not the cartoonish supervillains that they are portrayed as in the media.
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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #138 on: February 24, 2021, 01:07:55 AM »
Yeah, when the government tries to bust one of these groups up all it does is cause them to splinter into smaller and smaller groups that each operate independently, making them much more difficult to track. At that point one "problem" all of a sudden becomes multiple "problems."

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Re: Dying California trying to kill it’s own CFB Programs
« Reply #139 on: February 24, 2021, 07:04:39 AM »
USC and Stanford are private schools and I would think fairly immune from any state sponsored lunacy.
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