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Topic: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?

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847badgerfan

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #308 on: July 08, 2024, 04:37:30 PM »
Trying to save his seat and power.

Sen. Jon Tester says President Joe Biden must 'prove' he's 'up to the job' (thehill.com)
Sen. Jon Tester says President Joe Biden must 'prove' he's 'up to the job' (thehill.com)
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #309 on: July 08, 2024, 05:01:58 PM »
Parkinson's expert visited White House, met with Biden's doctor (cnbc.com)
Parkinson's expert visited White House, met with Biden's doctor (cnbc.com)

Parkinson's disease is often accompanied by these additional problems, which may be treatable:
  • Thinking difficulties. You may experience cognitive problems, such as dementia, and thinking difficulties. These usually occur in the later stages of Parkinson's disease. Such cognitive problems aren't usually helped by medicines.
  • Depression and emotional changes. You may experience depression, sometimes in the very early stages. Receiving treatment for depression can make it easier to handle the other challenges of Parkinson's disease.
    You also may experience other emotional changes, such as fear, anxiety or loss of motivation. Your health care team may give you medicine to treat these symptoms.
  • Swallowing problems. You may develop difficulties with swallowing as your condition progresses. Saliva may accumulate in your mouth due to slowed swallowing, leading to drooling.
  • Chewing and eating problems. Late-stage Parkinson's disease affects the muscles in the mouth, making chewing difficult. This can lead to choking and poor nutrition.
  • Sleep problems and sleep disorders. People with Parkinson's disease often have sleep problems, including waking up frequently throughout the night, waking up early or falling asleep during the day.
    People also may experience rapid eye movement sleep behavior disorder, which involves acting out dreams. Medicines may improve your sleep.
  • Bladder problems. Parkinson's disease may cause bladder problems, including being unable to control urine or having difficulty in urinating.
  • Constipation. Many people with Parkinson's disease develop constipation, mainly due to a slower digestive tract.
As someone with a grandmother who suffered from Parkinson's--lived to 93(!) though--I wouldn't say that Biden shows signs there. 

I think it is a more standard old-age cognitive decline. 

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #310 on: July 08, 2024, 05:08:39 PM »
Parkinson's expert visited White House, met with Biden's doctor (cnbc.com)
Parkinson's expert visited White House, met with Biden's doctor (cnbc.com)
I think the fact that this news got out is more interesting than the news itself.  From what I know about dementia*, it really doesn't matter all that much whether it is caused by Parkinson's, or is Alzheimer's, or is just plain dementia.  In any case the prognosis isn't good and the deterioration will continue.  

The fact that this news was made public (by NBC no less) tells me that Biden is done and the Democrats will have a new nominee within a matter of weeks.  I could be wrong of course but that is my take.  

*What I know about dementia:
My dad had it so I've "been there".  When he was first diagnosed the Doctors didn't really seem to care much whether or not it was Alzheimer's specifically because the treatment and prognosis were more-or-less the same either way.  I've known a few people who had Parkinson's but my knowledge there is more limited because I'm talking about people I knew not someone whose healthcare was basically my responsibility.  

The conversation that has to be going on right now is that dementia (Parkinson's too) gets worse not better.  There isn't a cure.  If Biden is having lapses this frequently already then he can't possibly serve as President until January 20, 2029.  That puts Harris front-and-center even if she isn't technically elevated to the top of the ticket.  At that point they might as well elevate her and hope for the best.  

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #311 on: July 08, 2024, 05:16:51 PM »
As someone with a grandmother who suffered from Parkinson's--lived to 93(!) though--I wouldn't say that Biden shows signs there.

I think it is a more standard old-age cognitive decline.
My dad died from Parkinson’s.   It is horrible.  

it hits everybody a little bit differently. I see some similarities for sure but I am no doctor so I have no idea.
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #312 on: July 09, 2024, 09:22:45 AM »
Joe Biden fundraising signs of weakness appear post debate (cnbc.com)

Presuming this is true, this is one thing that would "influence" a lot of voices in the Democratic circle, and hard.

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #313 on: July 09, 2024, 09:41:33 AM »
Joe Biden fundraising signs of weakness appear post debate (cnbc.com)

Presuming this is true, this is one thing that would "influence" a lot of voices in the Democratic circle, and hard.
Abigail Disney the heiress to the Walt Disney family fortune came out and said she's not donating any more money to the Democratic party until Joe drops out. 

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #314 on: July 09, 2024, 09:42:55 AM »
Trying to save his seat and power.

Sen. Jon Tester says President Joe Biden must 'prove' he's 'up to the job' (thehill.com)
Sen. Jon Tester says President Joe Biden must 'prove' he's 'up to the job' (thehill.com)
Joe don't have to prove sh*t. He's the nominee unless he decides to drop out. He ain't dropping out. They'll have to invoke the 25th amendment to get rid of him. 

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #315 on: July 09, 2024, 09:45:50 AM »
"They" won't invoke 25A, and even if they did and it "worked", he'd still be the nominee without further actions.

I think folks are waiting and talking and worrying about options and looking at what is changing like polls and money.  The money thing is real, apparently, and not good.  Money talks.  End of the month remains my guess.

If Joe has any more even slight stumbles ...

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #316 on: July 09, 2024, 09:46:16 AM »
The 25th would be a challenge. I don't think they could pull it off.
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #317 on: July 09, 2024, 09:52:09 AM »
It would be political suicide even to try for the Cabinet members and KH.  They won't want to risk that.  And it doesn't really solve "the problem", which is the nomination.

Now, maybe if Joe has more really bad days in public, they might be forced to attempt it, but it would have to be several really bad public days.  The story to date is "Everything is fine here."

There would first be multiple high level efforts to get him to retire and resign quietly.  

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #318 on: July 09, 2024, 09:56:53 AM »
This is not good.

Biden didn't show up for an early evening meeting with the German chancellor because he had to go to bed: report (msn.com)
Biden didn't show up for an early evening meeting with the German chancellor because he had to go to bed: report (msn.com)
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #319 on: July 09, 2024, 10:06:53 AM »
The fact that this news was made public (by NBC no less) tells me that Biden is done and the Democrats will have a new nominee within a matter of weeks.  I could be wrong of course but that is my take. 
it tells me that the Democrats are panicking now and know they can't use their minions in the dying legacy corporate media to gaslight and propagandize voters into believing the obvious lies about Biden's excellent mental acuity. Sorry Mornin' Joe...."Biden is beyond cogent, this is the best version of Biden ever, and F YOU IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" :043:

The Dems are in full on panic mode because they realize the jig is up now and they no longer can use their DNC operative hacks in the legacy corporate media to propagandize for them. And make no mistake the legacy corporate media is 90+% made up of DNC operative hacks. They no longer are able pull the wool over the eyes of the sheeple. They can't convince anyone anymore that Biden's brain hasn't melted into the soft serve ice cream he loves because: people have eyes and ears.

They are leaking "scoops" now and actually covering this issue in the way it should've been covered when he was running in 2020 in order to pressure Biden to drop out. Newsflash: Biden isn't dropping out. His entire adult life has been spent in Washington DC and all about amassing power and influence and trying to ascend to the throne. He's never known anything else but being a politician really. And now that he's achieved and reached his life's goal and ascended to throne- you think he's really going to just give that up? He ain't just going to give that up. Not happening. This is one of the most narcissistic, wholly corrupt, morally bankrupt, lying scumbag piece of sh*t human beings ever to exist in American politics. Ain't happening.

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #320 on: July 09, 2024, 10:07:17 AM »
just pull all the $$ from the campaign

no more ads

let Trump have it
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #321 on: July 09, 2024, 10:09:57 AM »
apparently, Joe can't be bought.

I assume someone with real money has offered to pay him to go away
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