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Topic: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #280 on: July 08, 2024, 11:23:25 AM »
Harris 2024 Election Odds 2X Better Than Biden To Beat Trump - Benzinga

2024 General Election: Trump vs. Harris Polls | RealClearPolling

I suspect once the Democratic powers that be determine she has a better shot and Joe can't recover, he'll be escorted out of the race, but left as President.

It takes a couple of weeks for polls to settle down and get a read of course, and then maybe a few days to make it happen.

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #281 on: July 08, 2024, 11:28:21 AM »

If Joe Biden can't do it, Kamala Harris sure can (thehill.com)

Juan Williams, of course a well known Democratic supporter and opinionator.

He engages in some double speak here.

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #282 on: July 08, 2024, 11:32:37 AM »
Does Kamala Harris have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the United States?

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #283 on: July 08, 2024, 11:35:00 AM »
Is that a rule or a norm?  Norms don't exist anymore.
Constitutionally the electors from a State can't vote for a President and a VP both from their State.

Thus, unless Harris could re-register elsewhere they'd give up California's EVs for the VP slot.

There are 538 EVs:
  • 1 for each Congressional District 
  • 1 for each Senator
  • 3 for DC
538/2=269.

In 2016 Biden/Harris got 306. California has 55 so if you take those away:
306-55=251, NOT a majority. 

IIRC if there is no majority:
  • HoR elects POTUS but the election is by State with each delegation getting one vote
  • Senate elects VPOTUS 


Here is where it gets REALLY screwy. I *THINK* the Senate that makes the decision would be the one elected this fall, not the current one, but I think that Harris, as current VP would get a vote. 

The Senate is currently REALLY close at 52-49 Democratic including Harris (as VP). 

I have no idea what happens if the Senate deadlocks and can't break the tie and this isn't completely implausible, consider:
  • R's gain 1 seat net, that gets us to 51-50 D
  • One Democratic Senator dies or is otherwise incapacitated. 
  • Alternatively Rs gain net two then one R dies or is incapacitated. 


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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #284 on: July 08, 2024, 11:39:39 AM »
I think it's pretty easy to change state of residency for most of these folks, but there probably is a timing issue at some point.  Does DC count as a different state?

Anyway, I don't think Harris-Newsom is a likely pairing.  

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #285 on: July 08, 2024, 11:45:10 AM »
I think it's pretty easy to change state of residency for most of these folks, but there probably is a timing issue at some point.  Does DC count as a different state?

Anyway, I don't think Harris-Newsom is a likely pairing. 
I Don think it has to be "a different state". IIRC, the constitutional language is that at least one of the two shall be "not from" the state.

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #286 on: July 08, 2024, 11:46:27 AM »
Cheney changed his residency to be VP with Bush back in the day.  

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #287 on: July 08, 2024, 11:47:29 AM »
I Don think it has to be "a different state". IIRC, the constitutional language is that at least one of the two shall be "not from" the state.
Ok, I looked it up:
"The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves."

So it doesn't matter where, just not California. 

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #288 on: July 08, 2024, 11:49:07 AM »
Cheney changed his residency to be VP with Bush back in the day.
He did and that will obviously be cited as precedent but this case is a bit more complicated because:
  • When Cheney changed his residency he was not holding any elective office, and
  • They had more time.


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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #289 on: July 08, 2024, 11:51:35 AM »
Yeah the time factor could be a barrier, but I think the point is moot.  Harris would need to pick someone from the midwest or maybe North Carolina.

It would be "fun" if the President and VP ended up from different parties.

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #290 on: July 08, 2024, 11:53:34 AM »
It would be "fun" if the President and VP ended up from different parties.
If I worked for the Secret Service, I wouldn't think so.

I think it would be a massive security risk.

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #291 on: July 08, 2024, 11:55:32 AM »
They'd likely never be in the same building.

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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #292 on: July 08, 2024, 12:06:36 PM »
Yeah the time factor could be a barrier, but I think the point is moot.  Harris would need to pick someone from the midwest or maybe North Carolina.
another swing state
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Re: Does Joe Biden have the Mental Capacity to be the President of the US?
« Reply #293 on: July 08, 2024, 12:20:48 PM »
As long as Biden has a pulse he'll continue to be useful to those who are actually running the country. 
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