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Topic: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!

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Cincydawg

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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2024, 09:18:23 AM »
So, the current factors that separate CFB from NFL Minor Leagues are:

1.  Players are nominally students.
2.  Players can't be drafted until three years out of HS.
3.  The rules are a bit different, this is eroding quickly.
4.  Winning your conference means something usually.
5.  Larger stadia often as not in CFB, at least with the elite teams.
6.  Quite a few teams are pastries.
7.  We still have bowl games for 6-6 teams, and worse.
8.  CFB relies heavily on "donations".

There are a few more I suppose.  

Differences that have gone away are pretty clear, 

1.  You can draft juniors now.
2.  CFB has a playoff similar to the NFL.
3.  Colleges have mostly figured out a specific set of courses that keep a player eligible that are creative.
4.  Players get paid, a lot in some cases, nothing in many cases.
5. ...

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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2024, 10:37:39 AM »
What will be, will be. I have no choice but to accept that, or quit watching.  I don’t want to quit watching.  

There is only one thing that will eventually lead me turn off the TV, and is a non negotiable going forward.  And I feel that I am not alone….

Fix the portal.  I need to know who I am cheering for on a year to year basis.  I have no interest in cheering for mercenaries from Alabama, or A&M, or whoever, that I actively cheered against with all my heart the year before.  

Now he is my guy?  Naw, F that.  

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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2024, 10:39:29 AM »
Limiting a kids ability to make money just because he doesn't excel in the classroom could be the next domino to fall 
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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2024, 11:57:27 AM »
Limiting a kids ability to make money just because he doesn't excel in the classroom could be the next domino to fall
I doubt it if only because it never seems to happen anymore. I don't want to take credit for this notion because @Cincydawg has pointed it out but I agree with him. It seems that all the major schools have devised ways to keep their star athletes eligible. 

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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2024, 12:00:35 PM »
I think they have to be enrolled for 12 quarter hours of classes, which isn't much, it takes 15 per quarter to graduate on time.  I presume the various courses designed to get a student up to college level count for this, like reading.  The first year should be pretty easy, and they have tutors who no doubt know all the tests ahead of time, so it can be rote memorization to pass a test.  I don't know the required GPA, but it's probably below 2.0?  (C).  

I'd guess an average fourth grader could manage this pretty well, and then qualify to be on the CFP committee.

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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2024, 12:25:20 PM »
Back in the day, TV would show a player and his major, they don't any more unless it's the single played on both teams singled out for some academic notice.  Even then, it's often a player with a 3.1 GPA in PhysEd or something.  I'm sure it got to be too noticeable when most of your team was majoring in "consumer economics" and "Spanish".


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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2024, 12:27:01 PM »
Limiting a kids ability to make money just because he doesn't excel in the classroom could be the next domino to fall
Does he even have to be a student?

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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2024, 02:11:16 PM »
Ed Zachary 

A kid that is denied admission to Wisconsin is being limited to benefit from NIL
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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #36 on: February 29, 2024, 04:25:14 PM »
it's happennnnning....B1G & SEC are discussing ditching the NCAA....

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39619331/sources-14-team-college-football-playoff-momentum

One high-ranking official involved in the discussions told ESPN on Wednesday that the presidents and chancellors in both the SEC and Big Ten are having conversations about whether to continue their NCAA membership. It's a move that would impact and could possibly derail the TV agreement.

"Those conversations are happening," the source said, adding some feel "pretty strongly about pulling away. I'd say very strongly."


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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #37 on: February 29, 2024, 04:28:48 PM »
Obviously they won't, but I wish MSU would leave the Big Ten if that happened.  Killing all college athletics, to turn it into a shitty NFL.  I would be totally out

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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #38 on: February 29, 2024, 05:45:48 PM »
NCAA to be killed and replaced by nCaA

Totally different thing.

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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #39 on: February 29, 2024, 05:50:01 PM »
Obviously they won't, but I wish MSU would leave the Big Ten if that happened.  Killing all college athletics, to turn it into a shitty NFL.  I would be totally out
Same here. Although it sounds like I'm griping about the possibility that a breakaway would exclude my team, I actually would prefer they do. 

They're already destroying a beautiful and unique sport. If they complete the job, I'd rather "my team" abstain. 

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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #40 on: February 29, 2024, 05:56:30 PM »
it's happennnnning....B1G & SEC are discussing ditching the NCAA....
Not until they bitch slap the Ann Arbor Astros
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Re: Death to Ame....err...Death to the NCAA!
« Reply #41 on: February 29, 2024, 08:52:39 PM »
Turns out, the mythical national championship was an important mythology for us.  
Better than a religion, anyway.

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