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OrangeAfroMan

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Dantonio
« on: November 16, 2019, 08:31:57 PM »
So he's 24-24 (.500) since 2016.  There's obviously murmurs and rumors and whispers and smoke and all that.
But who would MSU replace him with?  
You don't get rid of a guy unless you have someone who can do better ready to replace them.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2019, 09:28:18 PM »
I have heard names like Pat Narduzi, Phil Parker,  chris creighten, Matt Campbell,  thrown out there

But I don't believe that meets your criteria of MSU getting somebody that could do better than Dantonio.

I wonder if MSU could get somebody like Notre Dame's Brian Kelly.  I believe he let's it leak from time to time he is frustrated at ND.  And I believe he has a Midwestern background.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2019, 10:15:58 PM »
Don't they have a lame duck AD, or some such?
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2019, 10:40:39 PM »
The downward movement of MSU correlates with the time Harbaugh started coaching Michigan (2015), and started drawing his recruits to Michigan. I am guessing competition with Harbaugh, a more powerful Michigan, and a Michigan doing better at recruiting would explain much of the reason for Michigan State's slumping record.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2019, 10:54:13 PM »
So they are basically screwed until Harbaugh retires, no matter what they do?
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2019, 11:06:36 PM »
I've said as much about the have-nots in the SEC West.  Until Saban leaves and Bama comes back down to earth, they and LSU will play Kong and Godzilla, A&M and Auburn will occasionally poke their heads up, and the other 3 are just S.O.L.  Even when they've had a great coach or even cheated, OM, MSU, and ARK aren't going to win anything meaningful.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2019, 11:13:31 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 16, 2019, 10:54:13 PM
So they are basically screwed until Harbaugh retires, no matter what they do?
They could hire Nick Saban but they already tried that once and I don't think it would help. 
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2019, 11:23:16 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 16, 2019, 10:54:13 PM
So they are basically screwed until Harbaugh retires, no matter what they do?
And Franklin at PSU, no?
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2019, 11:31:03 PM »
Franklin's getting all the Michigan recruits too?
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2019, 11:36:17 PM »
2010-2015 (MSU's resurgence):
Rk - Win% - Team (not counting G5 teams)
1 .878 Bama
2 .851 Oregon
3 .829 FSU
4 .823 OSU
5 .814 Stanford
6 .802 MSU


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2011-2018
1 .932 Bama
2 .932 Clemson
3 .889 OSU
4 .852 OU
5 .778 Wisconsin
6 .763 Georgia
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38 .615 MSU.....and it's gotten worse this year. 



You could say MSU was in the #2 slot in the B10 East in the top time period, but since then, they're 4th in their division (OSU, UM, PSU). 
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2019, 11:37:02 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 16, 2019, 11:31:03 PM
Franklin's getting all the Michigan recruits too?
It's not about state lines, all of the name programs are recruiting all the top players in the area.  
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2019, 12:39:05 AM »
MD is a good coach. Firing him is silly, because given the uphill battle in recruiting and in the division there's not a lot of faith that someone will exceed him. 

But he's gotta get a good OC and then take his hands off the offense. He wants to play Tresselball, but he doesn't have and will never have the personnel to play that against UM/OSU/PSU.

He needs to focus on defense and let someone better open up the offense. 
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2019, 06:53:43 AM »
Dantonio is an excellent coach.  He needed to make changes last year but didn’t out of loyalty to his staff.  Changes need to happen this off season.  And they need to figure out and defeat the injury bug.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2019, 06:59:04 AM by Temp430 »
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2019, 08:20:50 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 16, 2019, 11:31:03 PM
Franklin's getting all the Michigan recruits too?
Not really,he's atually keeping alot of the Pa.kids home though
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