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ELA

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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2019, 04:50:42 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 17, 2019, 03:56:50 PM
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They appear to be doing better than 8 wins a season over the last decade.  That is about 9 wins per season.









Nobody expects the 2010-2015 run to be anything more than once a generation...if that
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2019, 04:58:37 PM »
So not all ten? Just their "starting QB and biggest offensive threat"?

No guarantee that they would have signed with MSU, had Franklin not taken the Lions job. Maybe they beat Arizona State and Illinois with those two guys, but the OSU, PSU, Wisconsin and Michigan losses were all by pretty wide margins where you wouldn't think two guys would quite be enough to swing those losses into wins. I suppose PSU isn't quite as good in this scenario, so maybe that one? Nah...
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2019, 10:16:11 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on November 16, 2019, 09:28:18 PM
I have heard names like Pat Narduzi, Phil Parker,  chris creighten, Matt Campbell,  thrown out there

But I don't believe that meets your criteria of MSU getting somebody that could do better than Dantonio.

I wonder if MSU could get somebody like Notre Dame's Brian Kelly.  I believe he let's it leak from time to time he is frustrated at ND.  And I believe he has a Midwestern background.


He is an New Englander. His father was a Boston Politician part of the Irish Catholic that had controlled much of Massachusetts. Whether it is a good thing or a bad thing he is definitely not a midwestern.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2019, 10:17:39 AM »
Given Dantonio's teams over the past decade have averaged 9 wins a season, has he not earned a couple of "off years"?
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« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2019, 11:34:31 AM »
Paid big bucks to problem solve and placating friends instead of improving the program is the rub IMO.He must acknowledge the need to change things whether players,coaches,alignments schemes and i don't think the faithful are seeing that
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #47 on: November 18, 2019, 11:40:22 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 18, 2019, 10:17:39 AM
Given Dantonio's teams over the past decade have averaged 9 wins a season, has he not earned a couple of "off years"?
Yes, this is a fine down year.  But this shouldn't be a down year.  This is a team loaded with experience.  A good deal of them were starters on a 10-3 team two years ago.  If they went 10-3 this year, then 6-6 next year, in a rebuilding year, sure.  But this looks like a 4-8 team at best next year.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2019, 12:45:54 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 18, 2019, 10:17:39 AM
Given Dantonio's teams over the past decade have averaged 9 wins a season, has he not earned a couple of "off years"?
With it being 3 out of the last 4 years being “off years” I suspect that is where the frustration is stemming from. The cupboards look fairly light on talent for next year too, no matter the coaching staff decisions made in the offseason. 

It is a bit interesting watching this Gopher team up close this year. While Fleck and Dantonio couldn’t be more opposite, the 2019 Gophers look a lot like some of Dantonio’s strongest teams. Talent sprinkled in different spots across the field, strong player development and growth, and sound and simple schemes that allow them to be successful on both sides of the ball. 
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #49 on: November 18, 2019, 01:38:14 PM »
Kind of reminds me of Glen Mason's ouster.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2019, 02:19:35 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 18, 2019, 11:34:31 AM
Paid big bucks to problem solve and placating friends instead of improving the program is the rub IMO.He must acknowledge the need to change things whether players,coaches,alignments schemes and i don't think the faithful are seeing that
That's the thing... I'm sure that he and the AD have been talking, and the AD told him "fix the f'ing offense". 

Dantonio tried it his own way [shuffle the deck chairs] and the AD is probably going to tell him in the offseason "this ship is still sinking--here's what you're going to do [hire a new up-and-coming OC and give him free reign] and if you don't like it, we'll let you 'retire' instead."
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2019, 02:51:33 PM »
Historically, Sparty has only seen success like that with Dantonio when George Perles was coach.  The expectations in East Lansing that Dantonio revived may bite him in the rear.  If I was to guess I think Dantonio will retire.  Next year isn't going to be pretty either but they may cut him some slack.  Besides, who would take the job?  Coaching football in the same division as Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan is not exactly a good career move for a young up and coming coach.   If Dantonio ends up sticking around and makes some good hires in the off season he could turn it around in a few years.   
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« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2019, 03:03:00 PM »
Ask Nebraska fans if they'd like Bo Pelini's 9 win seasons again.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #53 on: November 18, 2019, 03:18:53 PM »
I have, and they said no.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #54 on: November 18, 2019, 03:20:27 PM »
Liars.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #55 on: November 18, 2019, 03:27:13 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 18, 2019, 03:18:53 PM
I have, and they said no.
The sad reality of sports is so many prefer hope without present success to present success without a sense of hope attached. 

Even if present success always has hope, even when we can’t see it. 
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