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Topic: CRISPR and AI

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Cincydawg

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CRISPR and AI
« on: January 29, 2025, 07:46:41 AM »
I'm reading a somewhat scaryish book about the former, and we're all seeing stuff about the latter.  My premise is these two things MAY significantly influence our futures.  AI I'm not sure about, don't really understand it, am occasionally impressed with its output, and often dismissive of same.  It seems to be quite real and going to hog a lot of power in the near future.  I can envision a world "powered" by AI where live humans simply live in a virtual world in pods or something.  Maybe we serve as power sources for the AI.

CRISPR stands for Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats. Repetitive DNA sequences, called CRISPR, were observed in bacteria with “spacer” DNA sequences in between the repeats that exactly match viral sequences.

This beast is akin to Brave New World futures, the ability to modify the human genome, for better or not so much.  The science is ahead of the ethicists at the moment.  Star Trek 2?  And in theory they can do it on live adult humans to correct genetic issues.  The writing for me is too drawn out, but whatever, I'm plowing through it, finished over half (from the library).  


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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2025, 09:35:19 AM »
AI is going to be powerful and influential in the coming decades/centuries.  It's going to be capable of doing everything we've predicted over the past 100 years in the SciFi novels, plus many things we haven't even dreamed or imagined yet.

Some will be good, some will be bad.  But the best advice I can give right now, is learn everything you can to understand it, and implement it.  Those who don't understand it will be left far behind.

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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2025, 09:49:21 AM »
AI is going to be powerful and influential in the coming decades/centuries.  It's going to be capable of doing everything we've predicted over the past 100 years in the SciFi novels, plus many things we haven't even dreamed or imagined yet.

Some will be good, some will be bad.  But the best advice I can give right now, is learn everything you can to understand it, and implement it.  Those who don't understand it will be left far behind.
Well, for those of us who do understand it, please tell us WTF is happening?  

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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2025, 09:59:48 AM »
I'm already behind the 8 ball.......as usual with new tech.

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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2025, 10:11:31 AM »
I'm already behind the 8 ball.......as usual with new tech.
Same.
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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2025, 10:46:56 AM »
This is my current understanding of how much of AI works (Open AI/Chat GPT, GROK, and various other entities).  

There are specialized chips made by companies like NVIDIA and others that have immense processing power that can be linked together in clusters to form a supercomputer.  These clusters then scour the internet using social media sites like FB and others (and access to these SM sites as key and controversial).  The more content they see, the more they learn.  In essence, they program themselves, with some overall guidance by the creators.  There is so much content out there, astronomical amounts from the last 20+ years of everything being online, that they can literally see everything and absorb everything, or at least massive amounts.  So they look, remember, and evolve.  I'm sure they even scour this site as well, which is kinda scary.  This is what they call a LLM, or large language model, to generate the outputs.  Sometimes the outputs are wrong or skewed, and somtimes they are very good.  Somebody posted a AI generated image of Texas Memorial Stadium.  At first glance, it looked pretty cool, until you get looking a little closer and the logo's and State of Texas symbols were butchered, and the shape resembled more of a baseball diamond than the real thing.  One infamous example from just a few years ago was a AI generated video of Will Smith eating noodles or something. It kinda looked like Will Smith, but was clearly a fake video.  Now, just 2-3 years later, AI can generate the same video and it looks extremely real, almost to the point of not being able to tell the difference between the real thing and AI.  The scary thing is that it gets better all the time.  

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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2025, 10:52:55 AM »

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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2025, 10:56:11 AM »
I've found that you always need to look at the hands when you see pictures of people anymore. AI still can't do hands very well. 

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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2025, 11:07:24 AM »
Yup hands are weird.  And it gets weird with motion, too.

What Gigem posted is mostly correct*, but only part of the story.  The models need training data.  That can be anything from the entire world wide web, to just specific data that you feed directly to it.

The larger the training data sample, and the less curated, the more likely you are to get weird outputs.  Like the weird stadium, flag, and logos above, or the weird hands on images of humans.  

And in the worst case, the AI LLMs trained on the entire web, have a tendency to "hallucinate."  They create completely false facts when queried on a subject.  The false facts are usually plausible, but they're absolutely 100% fabricated, because the training data has so much ambiguity and incorrect data within it.

* from above, the specialty chips made by NVidia and others are called "NPU" which stands for Neural Processing Unit.  They don't necessarily talk to one another unless you've configured it as so via networked servers.  But in your home system, it simply means that the NPU is capable of faster processing of AI-related data, in the same way a GPU is capable of faster processing of graphics-related data, all while the CPU still manages the system as a whole.  The software assistants are the ones scraping the web or trolling the training data, to generate responses for your requests.

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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2025, 11:10:11 AM »
I've even seen some places selling fake fingers you can wear on your hands to give the appearance that you have extra fingers just in case you get caught on video you can claim it's fake.  

Strange world.  

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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2025, 11:13:01 AM »
Yup hands are weird.  And it gets weird with motion, too.

What Gigem posted is mostly correct*, but only part of the story.  The models need training data.  That can be anything from the entire world wide web, to just specific data that you feed directly to it.

The larger the training data sample, and the less curated, the more likely you are to get weird outputs.  Like the weird stadium, flag, and logos above, or the weird hands on images of humans. 

And in the worst case, the AI LLMs trained on the entire web, have a tendency to "hallucinate."  They create completely false facts when queried on a subject.  The false facts are usually plausible, but they're absolutely 100% fabricated, because the training data has so much ambiguity and incorrect data within it.

* from above, the specialty chips made by NVidia and others are called "NPU" which stands for Neural Processing Unit.  They don't necessarily talk to one another unless you've configured it as so via networked servers.  But in your home system, it simply means that the NPU is capable of faster processing of AI-related data, in the same way a GPU is capable of faster processing of graphics-related data, all while the CPU still manages the system as a whole.  The software assistants are the ones scraping the web or trolling the training data, to generate responses for your requests.
No doubt I only touched on the very fringes of what's happening, but as an outsider it's how I see it.  

Curious, to the mods of this site, can you tell when it's being scraped or whatever they call it by bots etc for data?  Scary to think how much personal details we've shared on this site over the years.  

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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2025, 11:14:14 AM »
I've even seen some places selling fake fingers you can wear on your hands to give the appearance that you have extra fingers just in case you get caught on video you can claim it's fake. 

Strange world. 

Oh my.  Wow.

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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2025, 11:15:20 AM »
No doubt I only touched on the very fringes of what's happening, but as an outsider it's how I see it. 

Curious, to the mods of this site, can you tell when it's being scraped or whatever they call it by bots etc for data?  Scary to think how much personal details we've shared on this site over the years. 

@Drew4UTk sure can.  He speaks about it on A51 periodically.



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Re: CRISPR and AI
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2025, 11:54:43 AM »
Aside from weird photos, what else could AI do in the future?  I know we have CGI of course in movies, which isn't really full AI stuff.  I think.

How hard would it be to completely duplicate a web site or email address to cull information from folks?  I know that already exists, folks exchange a symbol for some letter somewhere to differentiate that can't be seen.

 

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