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Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« on: June 24, 2020, 06:17:41 PM »
https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Article/Colin-Cowherd-Ohio-State-Buckeyes-one-of-college-footballs-four-big-dogs-148471521/

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There are arguments to be made against some of Cowherd's points.  In the OU-Texas comparison, Texas' Darrell Royal was something like 5-1 against OU's Bud Wilkinson.  USC has had some long stretches of mediocrity.  Bo Schembechler went 5-4-1 against Woody Hayes.  I'm sure there are others.
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2020, 06:26:39 PM »
USC? Lmfao. Cowherd is a turd. I don’t know how he’s still on air. And he’s also a ridiculously over the top USC fanboy. 

Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama are the clear top dawgs and by a nice margin. UGA and OU or right on their heels. 

USC isn’t even in the discussion. 

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2020, 06:42:34 PM »
Just curious--did you read the article?
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2020, 07:32:02 PM »
Just curious--did you read the article?
I did, and it's Broward County, not Brower.  :96:
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2020, 07:33:05 PM »
I kind of like Cowherd, except that he does what Jim Rome did - he restates the same point over and over until he words it well and seems pleased with himself.


On a similar note, I was listening to some sports talk on AM radio when I happened to not have my phone with me in the car and DEAR GOD......it's unconscionable.  You're already bombarded with ads and commercials about 60% of the time, but guuuhhhhh, the talking head is just filling time by talking circles around himself on the same point.  

It's the worst.
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2020, 07:55:59 PM »
Just curious--did you read the article?
Yes, I read it. And it’s as stupid and poorly thought out as I thought it would be.

A great coach makes the program. If Saban had stayed at LSU and never left they would’ve been the powerhouse and Bama would probably still be hiring and firing coaches every other year.

If Urban Meyer went to Michigan or Penn State he’d have built them into the power of the B1G, not OSU.

He’s making dumb points. USC has been dogshit ever since it lost arguably its greatest coach in its history.

Urban would’ve built a dynasty like Saban at Florida had he recruited some more high character guys. Half his team were illiterate criminals and he got burnt out. He learned his lesson fast though and started recruiting more high character super talented guys at OSU. And he gave the bad apples way less leash. He was a lot quicker to kick guys out of the program than he ever was at UF.

Urban landed 5* STARZ from everywhere in the country at OSU. He’d have done the same thing at Michigan or Penn State if he was the coach. He’s arguably the best recruiter ever.

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2020, 08:44:39 PM »

He’s making dumb points. USC has been dogshit ever since it lost arguably its greatest coach in its history.

I find this kind of outlook amusing because it sort of reduces everything that's not right at the top to "dogshit." Like everything is either creme de la creme or trash.

USC is three years removed from an 11-win season. It's four years removed from a No. 3 finish. A replacement level coach can do that at USC, which might actually make a compelling case for the point.

But anyway. Once someone complies a list that ranks teams, it just leads to talking crap. It's something we can't seem to help ourselves about. 

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2020, 08:58:28 PM »
I find this kind of outlook amusing because it sort of reduces everything that's not right at the top to "dogshit." Like everything is either creme de la creme or trash.

USC is three years removed from an 11-win season. It's four years removed from a No. 3 finish. A replacement level coach can do that at USC, which might actually make a compelling case for the point.

But anyway. Once someone complies a list that ranks teams, it just leads to talking crap. It's something we can't seem to help ourselves about.
Yeah and Brady Hoke had an 11 win season, top 10 finish and won a BCS Bowl. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile.

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2020, 09:34:04 PM »
Poor Tennessee and Nebraska. 
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2020, 09:43:08 PM »
Poor Tennessee and Nebraska.
Do you think they’ll ever be able to get back to their former glory?

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2020, 10:25:34 PM »
Do you think they’ll ever be able to get back to their former glory?
No for Nebraska. I'd say probably not for UT, though they generate enough good recruiting every few years, maybe they could. Granted, their former glory was probably not that sustained. They had a very good 13-year or so run, and then kinda some OK stuff at the end. 

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2020, 10:28:19 PM »
Yeah and Brady Hoke had an 11 win season, top 10 finish and won a BCS Bowl. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile.
Does that mean Michigan has also been dogshit int that timeframe? Interesting.

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2020, 11:13:24 PM »
Do you think they’ll ever be able to get back to their former glory?

Well "ever" is a pretty long time, so I wouldn't completely rule it out. 

It's certainly not as far fetched as Army, Fordham or the Ivies, etc.
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2020, 01:43:29 AM »
Tennessee will be very cyclical going forward.  Historically, they are a definitive #2 behind Alabama in the SEC.  And while they've been down for awhile now, the right HC will get them back up - they can recruit regionally and get the talent necessary.  But once that HC is gone, they'll fall back down to earth - and I say this because I'm not sure it's a destination job anymore.


I don't really see any reason for Nebraska to cycle back up.  I can't help but blame their move to the B10.  They went from being a big fish in a small pond to becoming a medium fish in an ocean, and there are a couple of sharks in there now.  When I'm toiling around with football stuff and thinking of the B10, Nebraska is an, "oh yeah, and Nebraska" position now.  A lot of that is a hesitation in remembering that they moved and a lot is their recent results.  I just don't see any inherent reasons it's LIKELY that UNL climbs back up the ladder. 
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