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Topic: College Basketball Scandal

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rolltidefan

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #84 on: October 11, 2018, 11:39:13 AM »
the schools will claim no knowledge and the NCAA will not want to hurt the blue bloods of basketball.   They'll create new rules for this in the future, but the past will be excused.   jmo
agreed, unless i'm reading this wrong, they're saying they conspired together to conceal payments from schools/ncaa, so the schools "shouldn't" have known much. i'm not sure i buy that, though. but i do think the schools have enough wiggle room to get out of it.

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #85 on: October 12, 2018, 11:24:20 AM »
Isn't that Tai Streets' gig? I think they might be in a little trouble.. but there is a thread for that.
Delany pointed out the problem it is.  He said when he worked in NCAA compliance the issue was boosters, and it was easier to police because ultimately the boosters didn't want their programs to get slapped with probation.  This is different, it's agents and shoe companies, often working through the AAU programs, and they couldn't care less about the NCAA programs, or what happens to them.  Hell, the biggest problem with this FBI case for the NCAA is that the defendants are opening admitting to all of the NCAA violations (because they have nothing to lose there) in arguing that they didn't break any actual laws.  When those payments from the agent were leaked last February, wasn't it like a dozen players at a dozen different schools?  It's not like he was working on behalf of a school.  So they are essentially trying to police something where the guys they are trying to police are in no way impacted by their punishments.  And with the one and done, the players really aren't either.
The Tai Streets thing is a little different because one writer was saying that his status as a former player puts him in a different classification, no matter what his motives were.  That because he was a former UM football player, he may qualify as a booster even though he was paying a kid (who Michigan wasn't even recruiting) to come play for his AAU team, on behalf of a shoe company.  I can't see anything actually coming from that though, because that seems like an incredibly stupid line to draw.

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #86 on: October 17, 2018, 11:25:20 AM »
Well, now that a Duke player's dad is on tape asking about how much money Kansas can pay to sway him, that shuts down any chance of the NCAA looking into this

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #87 on: October 17, 2018, 12:11:32 PM »
They're going to hammer Louisville now. 

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #88 on: October 17, 2018, 12:46:26 PM »
And Cleveland State.

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #89 on: October 24, 2018, 06:03:44 PM »
first court ruling in: guilty.

good news for the schools, at least initially. bad news is now the ncaa has free reign to look at docs and make their own, less burdensome ruling.

also, i'm interested to see the irs' take on this.

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #90 on: October 24, 2018, 10:37:03 PM »
And Cleveland State.
What am I missing here besides Dawkins father being an assistant here? Are their ties to CSU paying players?

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #91 on: October 25, 2018, 12:31:52 AM »
What am I missing here besides Dawkins father being an assistant here? Are their ties to CSU paying players?
 Jerry Tarkanian:

Tarkanian's rolling mantra was that the NCAA had a double-standard for enforcement, that it picked on smaller schools but protected the sugar-daddy power programs. This produced variations of his most famous quote: "The NCAA was so mad at Kentucky they gave Cleveland State two more years of probation."

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #92 on: October 25, 2018, 12:43:27 AM »
If law school taught me anything (and it did), and specifically amateur sports law,  it was the NCAA is amongst the most arbitrary and ridiculous organizations on earth (IOC a close second).

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #93 on: April 09, 2019, 10:08:22 AM »
and still waiting.....................
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #94 on: April 09, 2019, 10:15:22 AM »
Trials start Apr 22. That's the ones Sean Miller and Will Wade were subpoenaed for. 

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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #95 on: April 09, 2019, 12:34:03 PM »
If law school taught me anything (and it did), and specifically amateur sports law,  it was the NCAA is amongst the most arbitrary and ridiculous organizations on earth (IOC a close second).
It's been a long time since my paycheck was in any way related, but you know I can't just let this pass too easily.  :)
The NCAA is a huge organization that represents an extremely diverse pool of members, the overwhelming majority of whom are trying to make college sports a win for the colleges, universities, and student athletes. And it's not surprising that it's complicated. :cheer:


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Re: College Basketball Scandal
« Reply #97 on: April 11, 2019, 01:27:02 PM »
I posted in the other thread about a specific 2019 recruit--didn't want to drop that here. 

On the Hammer & Rails blog, there have been a lot of people saying "The FBI will not save Purdue basketball." However, I think we are starting to see the fallout from the FBI investigation with the NCAA starting to step in and investigate the programs named by the FBI. 

This could get interesting. Given that Matt Painter is widely regarded as one of the most "do it right" coaches in the sport, it's fun to just pick up the popcorn and watch this play out without worrying that we're going to get dragged in.

 

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