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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #616 on: November 26, 2021, 08:09:29 AM »
My LSU source says Napier to UF.  Let's see if he knows what he's talking about. 
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #617 on: November 26, 2021, 08:33:01 AM »
I view most coaches who last a while as good coaches, but not singularly elite, that takes a while to become clear of course.  Somebody spotted Urban Meyer and gave him a shot, he had success everywhere.  Saban of course reloads each year and has an incredible run.  Who else?  I would lump the rest in the "pretty good" category, interchangeable in effect, you could swap them out with the coach at another school and see about the same results, aside from the "gimmick" coaches like Paul Johnson.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #618 on: November 26, 2021, 08:42:45 AM »
4 thoughts on Florida Gators’ coaching search: Watch Billy Napier, and be patient (tampabay.com)

This says, logically, that hiring will be soon but not until each team finishes their regular season, which for Napier will be another  week plus.  It also implies Napier remains on UF's list.

I suspect Napier will end up somewhere, LSU or UF.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #619 on: November 26, 2021, 09:50:58 AM »
I view most coaches who last a while as good coaches, but not singularly elite, that takes a while to become clear of course.  Somebody spotted Urban Meyer and gave him a shot, he had success everywhere.  Saban of course reloads each year and has an incredible run.  Who else?  I would lump the rest in the "pretty good" category, interchangeable in effect, you could swap them out with the coach at another school and see about the same results, aside from the "gimmick" coaches like Paul Johnson.
As much as I dislike the guy, Dabo should probably be in the elite category.  Brian Kelly is another worth considering, while Day, Riley, and Smart will probably reach that in a few more years.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #620 on: November 26, 2021, 09:59:33 AM »
 aside from the "gimmick" coaches like Paul Johnson.
At a place like EMU he would have killed it
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #621 on: November 26, 2021, 10:16:02 AM »
As much as I dislike the guy, Dabo should probably be in the elite category.  Brian Kelly is another worth considering, while Day, Riley, and Smart will probably reach that in a few more years.

I agree, though I'd put Kelly and Smart more in the successful category, which I view as different.  Napier MIGHT be elite.  Maybe.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #622 on: November 26, 2021, 10:33:02 AM »
Sportswriters generally don't know more than we, and perhaps often less.

Rarely has college football experienced so much high-level coaching turnover in one season. Openings at Florida, LSU, USC, Washington, Washington State, Virginia Tech and TCU remain at the Power Five level while Texas Tech already filled its opening. Miami could be in the market for a new coach as well if it opts to move on from Manny Diaz. All in all, there will be a ton of competition for top coaching prospects over the next few weeks.

Pete Thamel compiled a list of the top six "A-list" candidates aside from Michigan State coach Mel Tucker, who could receive a reworked deal from the Spartans that significantly increases his compensation and keeps him there for next season. Thamel named Penn State coach James Franklin, Cincinnati coach Luke Fickell, Iowa State coach Matt Campbell, Baylor coach Dave Aranda, Oregon coach Mario Cristobal and Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin as the top names and quoted an "industry source" who said there might not be enough quality candidates for all of the open jobs.


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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #623 on: November 26, 2021, 02:59:21 PM »
Lincoln Riley to LSU? For $12-13 million a year. LSU rumors heating up that it's happening.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #624 on: November 26, 2021, 03:12:24 PM »
Sportswriters generally don't know more than we, and perhaps often less.
In this case, how do you mean this?

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #625 on: November 26, 2021, 03:31:47 PM »
Thamel named Penn State coach James Franklin, Cincinnati coach Luke Fickell, Iowa State coach Matt Campbell, Baylor coach Dave Aranda, Oregon coach Mario Cristobal and Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin as the top names and quoted an "industry source" who said there might not be enough quality candidates for all of the open jobs.



Hoping this is true so that the Washington Huskies get boxed out of the higher market by the likes of more competitive jobs. Falling back on having to hire Justin Wilcox will serve the Huskies right - the whiniest, most embittered and ungrateful fanbase west of the Mississippi. Go speak a dead language.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #626 on: November 26, 2021, 03:54:49 PM »
In this case, how do you mean this?
They have to write and often, so they write speculative stuff no better than what we post here, with few exceptions.  Anyone can write a speculative piece on X going to Y.

They add a lot of qualifiers of course.  And then in a few days the truth is announced, I can wait.  Washington would be a good job, I think, fairly lowish expectations, decent recruiting options, nice place generally, less rain than Atlanta gets.


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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #628 on: November 26, 2021, 04:17:44 PM »
If LSU lets Napier go to Florida, that's a major whiff by the administration

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #629 on: November 26, 2021, 04:19:20 PM »
They have to write and often, so they write speculative stuff no better than what we post here, with few exceptions.  Anyone can write a speculative piece on X going to Y.

They add a lot of qualifiers of course.  And then in a few days the truth is announced, I can wait.  Washington would be a good job, I think, fairly lowish expectations, decent recruiting options, nice place generally, less rain than Atlanta gets.


Ahh. I mean, I buy that to a degree. But, a guy like Thamel is on the phone with agents, coaches, admins, power brokers basically non-stop this time of year. So when he's reporting stuff, it likely respects talking to some or many of the players. 

That said, it is a weird kind of news because it is the kind of thing you'll find out later if it happens. Though if it doesn't, it's some interesting reading. 

 

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