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Mdot21

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #532 on: November 21, 2021, 05:46:49 PM »
I’d take LSU over UF. Better proximity to talent, better brand value in-state in a place that’s less trafficked
you may be right...I personally think it's UF- but it's splitting hairs. And to boot they both have athletic departments that are all-in all the time on football and are all football.

Regardless, both are much better jobs than USC- which honestly does not have any of that stuff except for the fact it's in the 2nd largest city in the US and the largest state in the US and it has a ton of talent in it's own backyard. That's literally the only good thing about the job- pretty much everything else about it sucks.

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« Reply #533 on: November 21, 2021, 05:46:54 PM »
Cristobal maybe inspite of last nite's results
that's a BIG maybe
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« Reply #534 on: November 21, 2021, 05:48:49 PM »
I don't see any obvious hires out there, nor anyone who would leave their HC spot. 

I don't want a coordinator.  The only HC out there that interests me is Riley, but he's at a helmet and I wouldn't want him without some sort of extra confidence in who'd be coordinating the defense. 

Florida should have a "holy sh*t" hire, but I don't see it out there.
there rarely are any "holy sh*t" hires out there. Meyer to OSU certainly was as was Saban to 'Bama, but when Meyer was first hired to UF and Saban first hired to LSU- they weren't exactly "HOLY SH*T!" hires- because neither had really done very much. Meyer had some impressive seasons at Utah and Saban had some impressive seasons at Sparty- but neither one of them had won anything and were not close to what they were when OSU/Bama hired them.

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« Reply #535 on: November 21, 2021, 05:49:44 PM »
Urban is a "holy crap" hire, though if you compare to when Florida originally hired him then Fickell compares pretty favorably.
yup. I'd say Fickell is in that Urban/Saban mold before they were hired by UF/LSU respectively. He's been really impressive at a difficult job- but that's it- so far.

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« Reply #536 on: November 21, 2021, 05:50:21 PM »
that's a BIG maybe
gigantic maybe. Cristobal is nothing special.

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« Reply #537 on: November 21, 2021, 05:50:52 PM »
there rarely are any "holy sh*t" hires out there. Meyer to OSU certainly was as was Saban to 'Bama, but when Meyer was first hired to UF and Saban first hired to LSU- they weren't exactly "HOLY SH*T!" hires- because neither had really done very much. Meyer had some impressive seasons at Utah and Saban had some impressive seasons at Sparty- but neither one of them had won anything and were not close to what they were when OSU/Bama hired them.
Ed Zachery, there are only a few holy shits per decade
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« Reply #538 on: November 21, 2021, 06:08:21 PM »
you may be right...I personally think it's UF- but it's splitting hairs. And to boot they both have athletic departments that are all-in all the time on football and are all football.

Regardless, both are much better jobs than USC- which honestly does not have any of that stuff except for the fact it's in the 2nd largest city in the US and the largest state in the US and it has a ton of talent in it's own backyard. That's literally the only good thing about the job- pretty much everything else about it sucks.
Also the Pac 12 blows so you can get a perfectly good coach and run the table

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« Reply #539 on: November 21, 2021, 06:15:28 PM »
Also Mullen getting 6 million now and six more over the next six years. No offsets. 

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« Reply #540 on: November 21, 2021, 06:17:26 PM »
We've picked the wrong line of work
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #542 on: November 21, 2021, 06:30:32 PM »
The crew of College GameDay likes one veteran coach, specifically. During Saturday morning’s show, Kirk Herbstreit floated Notre Dame’s Brian Kelly as a potential perfect fit. It was an idea Herbstreit previously brought up.

"I'd hire Brian Kelly, no questions asked," Herbstreit said. "You laugh (wait for) when it happens. I'd hire Brian Kelly."


Desmond Howard echoed Herbstreit’s thoughts, raising an interesting point about Kelly.

"I said Brian Kelly," Howard said. "I think that would be a great hire. I would go hard. I think he's taken Notre Dame as far as he can take them."
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« Reply #543 on: November 21, 2021, 09:01:03 PM »
Now that Florida parted ways with head coach Dan Mullen, yet another large college football job is vacant. As for what's next for the Gators, The Athletic and Fox college football insider Bruce Feldman thinks an in-division coach might be the answer. Feldman said Kentucky head coach Mark Stoops could be an option as the next Gators head coach.

Kentucky is now 8-3 on the season after a dominating win over New Mexico State and they conclude their season at Louisville next weekend. Stoops joined Kentucky as the head coach in 2013 and is over .500 in his lone head coaching stop.

Feldman said he “thinks Florida will look closely at the Kentucky coach.
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« Reply #544 on: November 21, 2021, 09:01:51 PM »
Mark Stoops or Lane Kiffin would be the guys I was targeting if Florida wants to keep it SEC.

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« Reply #545 on: November 21, 2021, 09:09:08 PM »
Mark Stoops is a great coach, and I think could be a great hire. But as AfroMan alluded to earlier - will he get enough time? If you keep kneecapping guys when they have some adversity, it is tough to build a real contender.

 

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