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Topic: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2019, 02:28:49 PM »
that's a large can o paint!
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2019, 03:50:47 PM »
I like Mike Leach.  In his one year in Norman, he installed the offense that took the Sooners to a national championship a year later.

He's also just a hell of an interesting guy.  I'm sure that it would be a blast hanging out with him in Key West and hearing his pirate stories.

But what has he done lately to indicate that he's got what it takes to revive a moribund big-time college football program?  He's not doing anything special with Wazzu.
He won 37 games across four years at a school whose success hasn’t been consistent. Since 1951, the highest coaches in winning percentage went 6-5, 12-10, 53-45 (leach) and 83-78.

Their best modern era coach had six winning seasons in 14 years and turned that into the Bama job.

We can argue if that’s special (maybe not), but there isn’t a ton that’s super special out there.

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2019, 04:26:17 PM »
He won 37 games across four years at a school whose success hasn’t been consistent. Since 1951, the highest coaches in winning percentage went 6-5, 12-10, 53-45 (leach) and 83-78.

Their best modern era coach had six winning seasons in 14 years and turned that into the Bama job.

We can argue if that’s special (maybe not), but there isn’t a ton that’s super special out there.
On top of that, while Texas Tech wasn't as dire as the WSU rebuild, Leach had a higher winning percentage in Lubbock than any coach since the 1930s. 

Is he the right fit for FSU? I don't know. But he's had more success at two P5 schools than any other modern era coaches at either school. 

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2019, 04:37:44 PM »
IMO, Leach has tailed off a bit since leaving Texas Tech.  He's older, he's more jaded, he's even less willing to put up with crap than he was 20 years ago.

I think he still likes aspects of coaching football, but I don't think he's got a fire burning in his belly to build a program capable of beating Bama or Clemson.

As far as other Texas Tech coaches, have any of them gone on to better jobs in which they achieved anything of note?  I don't know of any, but I haven't researched the subject.
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2019, 04:54:06 PM »
As far as other Texas Tech coaches, have any of them gone on to better jobs in which they achieved anything of note?  I don't know of any, but I haven't researched the subject.
Tuberville succeeded Leach, and then went on to a decent 4-year stretch at Cincinnati, but his final season was 4-8 and he resigned and was replaced by Luke Fickell. I think Tuberville was clearly on the downslope of his coaching career at that point, though, so it wasn't like he was using Texas Tech as a springboard job.

Ryan Gosling succeeded Tuberville for a number of years at Texas Tech, moonlighting from his successful acting career. He is now the first-year coach of the Arizona Cardinals, but his first season wouldn't be described as achieving anything of note thus far. 

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2019, 04:59:41 PM »
"Ryan Gosling"  :laugh1 title=Laugh1
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2019, 05:43:22 PM »
Which reminds me, did you know that if you scaled down the Earth to the size of a bowling ball, the Earth would be smoother than the bowling ball?

That's per the director of Mapping, Charting, & Geodesy at West Point 25 years ago.

I need further convincing.

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2019, 06:12:05 PM »
The Earth is smoother than a cue ball, I know that.  Nearly 8,000 miles diameter and the deepest surface depth is about 7 miles.  That is SMOOTH.

Low earth orbit is only about 200 miles up, they are skimming the upper atmosphere in effect.

They "fall" inwards at the same rate they go parallel to the planet, about 17,0000 mph.

We call it zero g, but more aptly it is "free fall", which any object experiences (mostly) if not under thrust and not in contact with a surface.  A cannon ball does it, until it hits ground, ballistic trajectory (mostly).

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2019, 07:47:03 PM »
I think he still likes aspects of coaching football, but I don't think he's got a fire burning in his belly to build a program capable of beating Bama or Clemson.
Living in the Keys has that effect but he may make one last serious run
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2019, 04:20:53 PM »
I'd like to try living in the Keys this winter for a week or two

There is one golf course in Key West - one is plenty
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2019, 04:45:13 PM »
You can stop at the 19th Bowl...I mean Hole
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2019, 04:58:40 PM »
I bet being a head coach is a tough job.

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2019, 05:03:49 PM »
not taking that bet
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2019, 05:58:07 PM »
Uh-oh, another idiotically premature contract extension? At least this is only talk from from a harmless BYU columnist:

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With the downhill part of the schedule coming up - Liberty, Idaho State, UMass, and San Diego State - let's see if Sitake can manage 3-1 or 4-0 before entertaining contract extension talks. Looks like the article's comments section mostly agrees.


Well wouldn't you know it...Kalani Sitake got his contract extended...this one isn't so bad because it only extends four years out from now, which fits the reason of stabilizing recruiting. It's the extensions that go six and seven years into the future that put Athletic Departments at needless financial risks.

"Sitake’s new deal takes him through the 2023 season.

Sitake’s current contract was set to expire after the 2020 season, and there was rampant speculation that he was on the hot seat after the Cougars lost back-to-back road games at Toledo and South Florida to drop to 2-4 on the year. Those puzzling losses came on the heels of wins over No. 24 USC and Tennessee of the SEC.

But they have won four straight to get bowl eligible and accepted an invitation to play in the So-Fi Hawaii Bowl on Christmas Eve (6 p.m. MST, ESPN) at Aloha Stadium after downing Idaho State 42-10 on Saturday."

https://www.deseret.com/2019/11/18/20970638/byu-announces-extension-for-football-coach-kalani-sitake

 

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