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Topic: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread

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utee94

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #308 on: November 14, 2023, 11:06:29 AM »
I don't consider Kelly a failure at LSU, he's still got some time to prove himself.

I do consider that weird fake cajun accent or whatever it was, to be a failure.  But near as I can tell, he hasn't attempted to do that again.

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #309 on: November 14, 2023, 11:19:00 AM »
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #310 on: November 14, 2023, 11:19:31 AM »
the big ten isn't even tryin

Iowa could have been on the list but kept kirk
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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #311 on: November 14, 2023, 11:28:40 AM »
the big ten isn't even tryin

Iowa could have been on the list but kept kirk
B1G is on the list.  Jim Mora, $12M. Congratulations.

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #313 on: November 14, 2023, 01:09:26 PM »
Don't feel bad.  Our coach's buyout is at $100 mil and the contract is for 10 years. 

Fortunately for us, he just fielded the worst defense in program history.  Oh, wait....



To all outsiders, it was the same AD--Scott Woodward--who saddled A&M with Jimbo's contract and LSU with Kelly's.  Hopelessly attaching schools to overpaid coaches who can't deliver is his superpower.  A&M can at least buy their way out if they feel like it.  We're stuck. 
too early to call on Kelly. It's still only year 2. Defense might suck, but man does he got an offense.

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« Reply #314 on: November 14, 2023, 03:34:58 PM »
Jesus, he did win the West in Year 1.  WTF do you do when your coach exceeds expectations in the first year and underperforms the 2nd?  We don't have that problem.  

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« Reply #315 on: November 14, 2023, 03:39:42 PM »
the big ten isn't even tryin

Iowa could have been on the list but kept kirk
Lets see where Mel's suit goes first

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« Reply #316 on: November 14, 2023, 03:42:01 PM »
This is a guy I'm surprised hasn't gotten any talk as Michigan State's next coach, but it seems like the other MSU is interested


https://twitter.com/CFBHome/status/1724501495641772200?s=20

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #317 on: November 14, 2023, 09:27:09 PM »
too early to call on Kelly. It's still only year 2. Defense might suck, but man does he got an offense.
And it looks like he's about to land Bryce Underwood

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« Reply #318 on: November 14, 2023, 09:40:45 PM »
Meanwhile, rumors are circulating in the national media that Sanders could be a possible head coaching candidate at Texas A&M. Texas A&M fired head football coach Jimbo Fisher on Sunday.

ESPN pundit Stephen A. Smith said Sanders needs to go to Texas A&M and the SEC.

“That’s what I’ve been saying, Deion Sanders in the SEC,” Smith said. “With that vault that they have available to them. Them hogs that he could recruit. He doesn’t have them at Colorado, and he ain’t going to get them. I don’t think they’ll do it. Texas A&M. Primetime, Deion Sanders in the SEC? That needs to happen.”

Coach Prime immediately addressed the rumors and Smith's comments at the start of his Tuesday press conference.

"I want to win, I want to win a game," Sanders said Tuesday. "So you think I really do sit down and think about that kind of stuff? Let what strikes me about that, about myself that you guys think I really sit down and say 'Ah yeah, Stephen A., yeah.' C'mon. I'm good. We got to win. Let's focus on this week when we play Friday so we lose a game of practice."

Colorado Buffaloes beat reporter Brian Howell said that should Sanders make another move, he’d either have to leave his children, Shedeur Sanders and Shilo Sanders, behind at CU or risk them having to sit out the 2024 season as two-time transfers.

Sanders was asked what he would tell parents if they were to come to him and ask about his future at Colorado.

"I tell them what I told them when they came: I'm here. I'm here," Sanders said. "I tell them my mother's here. My sister's here. My dog is here. My daughter's here. Three of my sons are here. My other daughter comes during every home game. We here. I get mail here. I pay taxes here. I'm here."

"I don't hear that. Maybe our recruiting staff hears that, but I don't hear it. I'm too honest with parents, I'm going to tell them the truth," Sanders added.


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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #319 on: November 14, 2023, 11:05:27 PM »
And it looks like he's about to land Bryce Underwood
yeah, which is insane honestly. 

Ah well. Looking like Chip Kelly is about to get fired, maybe they can get Dante Moore in the portal.

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #320 on: November 15, 2023, 12:25:55 PM »
Jesus, he did win the West in Year 1.  WTF do you do when your coach exceeds expectations in the first year and underperforms the 2nd?  We don't have that problem. 

I wrote a bunch of stuff but then decided to shorten it to the bottom line.  I'm not dogging him in the sense that I want him gone right now or think he should be on the hot seat at this time.  I'm looking ahead.  I see a lot of signs that he's not building a program that can compete with UGA, Bama, Michigan, Ohio State, etc.  And that is absolutely the goal when you pay somebody that much money.  And I find it ridiculous that we got ourselves into a contract we can't extricate ourselves from if the seasons become untenable.  

Hell, this season would be untenable if he didn't have an all-timer of a QB, and that's hardly a sustainable model to build even mediocre seasons like this on.  

There's probably a floor with Kelly.  We'll probably never be Orgeron-bad with him here.  On the other hand, I don't expect him to win the division a bunch more times, the conference or playoff/NCs. 

I hope he proves me wrong.  

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Re: Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread
« Reply #321 on: November 16, 2023, 10:51:56 AM »
I see a lot of signs that he's not building a program that can compete with UGA, Bama, Michigan, Ohio State, etc.  And that is absolutely the goal when you pay somebody that much money.

Yes, a 10 year deal worth $100M! Only Saban and Kirby Smart have larger contracts. Mel Tucker's contract was valued at about the same as Kelly's.

And I find it ridiculous that we got ourselves into a contract we can't extricate ourselves from if the seasons become untenable. 

And Yes(!), to quote from a sports blog: "In terms of buyout, the school would owe Kelly 90% of his remaining contract if he is fired without cause at any point in his tenure. There's a caveat: if Brian Kelly wins a national title with LSU, and the university still fires him, it will owe him 100% of his contract."

Unlike A&M's deal with Fisher, LSU's does include a financial offset.

So Brian Kelly's contract is almost entirely guaranteed and almost as costly as what Texas A&M signed up for.

Guess what is the strongest factor between these two insufferable contracts? Both were tailored by the same Athletic Director - Scott Woodward!

A perfect case study for this thread. The man who set up TWO(!) SEC Athletic programs for financial ruin:



 

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