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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #196 on: February 03, 2024, 12:24:10 AM »
Iowa basketball is widely regarded as the inverse of Iowa football; all offense, and no defense. Yet they were held to a low score and won the game on a hustle play. 

total chitshow. 
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #197 on: February 03, 2024, 06:46:40 AM »

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This attempted comparison was one of your weaker efforts, please try again.
LOL, if your defense is Hoiberg is in his fifth season, Gard is in his 9th season, and Collins is in his 11th season, and this is supposed to mean something to anyone, I think I win that round. 
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #198 on: February 03, 2024, 06:47:06 AM »
Quote from: ELA on February 02, 2024, 11:20:19 PM
Kermit got that job after upsetting Big Ten teams in the tournament in his last two years at MTSU, so maybe you have something there
Would make for good Muppets memes
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #199 on: February 03, 2024, 10:19:10 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on February 03, 2024, 06:46:40 AM
LOL, if your defense is Hoiberg is in his fifth season, Gard is in his 9th season, and Collins is in his 11th season, and this is supposed to mean something to anyone, I think I win that round.
I pointed out that those guys have things called accomplishments, since Holtmann doesn't the comparison favors moving on.
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #200 on: February 03, 2024, 02:00:37 PM »
Penn State just won in Bloomington. 

They have a first year coach and they have a better team than Holtmann's seventh attempt. 
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #201 on: February 03, 2024, 05:01:44 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on February 03, 2024, 02:00:37 PM
Penn State just won in Bloomington.

They have a first year coach and they have a better team than Holtmann's seventh attempt.
Start all upperclassmen except for sophomore Kanye Clary. 
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #202 on: February 03, 2024, 05:39:18 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on February 03, 2024, 05:01:44 PM
Start all upperclassmen except for sophomore Kanye Clary.
I don't necessarily agree that experience is the problem but it makes no difference in terms of evaluating this coach because:

Our coach has had SEVEN FREAKING YEARS to figure out how to accumulate enough experience to put a competitive team on the floor and the only team he ever had that even got close to a league tire was the one where he didn't have much to do with constructing the roster.
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #203 on: February 03, 2024, 05:53:03 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on February 03, 2024, 05:39:18 PM
I don't necessarily agree that experience is the problem but it makes no difference in terms of evaluating this coach because:

Our coach has had SEVEN FREAKING YEARS to figure out how to accumulate enough experience to put a competitive team on the floor and the only team he ever had that even got close to a league tire was the one where he didn't have much to do with constructing the roster.
It makes a difference for next year, because we could have a pretty solid team coming back, or we could have no one come back and get excited if we are 11-11 in February.
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #204 on: February 03, 2024, 07:00:01 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on February 03, 2024, 05:53:03 PM
It makes a difference for next year, because we could have a pretty solid team coming back, or we could have no one come back and get excited if we are 11-11 in February.
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #205 on: February 03, 2024, 08:51:43 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on February 03, 2024, 07:00:01 PM
Actual picture of everyone who agrees with this assessment.
Also a picture of OSU's basketball history
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #206 on: February 03, 2024, 10:45:26 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on February 03, 2024, 08:51:43 PM
Also a picture of OSU's basketball history
Bulls#!t and you know better, don't make stupid comments. 

I reviewed tOSU BB history early in this thread:
  • Top-10 all time per AP
  • 10 F4's, tied with MSU for 6th nationally behind only the bluest of blue bloods UNC, UCLA, DOOK, UK, and KU
  • 14 S16's 
  • 20 Big Ten Championships, trails only PU and IU

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #207 on: February 03, 2024, 11:36:27 PM »
This one feels like it should be done, sorry Sam. It could work, but it’s sports, it probably won’t. 

He’s closing in on the thing that gets you fired. Is what it is. 
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #208 on: February 04, 2024, 06:36:09 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on February 03, 2024, 10:45:26 PM
Bulls#!t and you know better, don't make stupid comments.

I reviewed tOSU BB history early in this thread:
  • Top-10 all time per AP
  • 10 F4's, tied with MSU for 6th nationally behind only the bluest of blue bloods UNC, UCLA, DOOK, UK, and KU
  • 14 S16's
  • 20 Big Ten Championships, trails only PU and IU


And a bunch of empty seats. Sorry, but facts are facts. If people don't support the program or go to the games, you can pretend that is all the coach's fault, or you can embrace reality and finally realize this ain't a basketball town and people don't care about it. That's not a proud history. Pick a pony.
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #209 on: February 04, 2024, 06:37:56 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 03, 2024, 11:36:27 PM
This one feels like it should be done, sorry Sam. It could work, but it’s sports, it probably won’t.

He’s closing in on the thing that gets you fired. Is what it is.
I'm not even against it. I wanted to see defensive improvement, and it hasn't been there. But I also see a young team and I'm seeing us go threw the knocks of a young team and then blowing it up before we get the rewards. Then we turn 2 years of crappiness into 7. The idea that we have nothing to lose is silly if you pay any attention to the sport at all.
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