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Topic: Championship Week (and Other Things)

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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #294 on: March 01, 2021, 05:31:39 PM »
Well, I find enjoyment in football seasons even beyond the chance for the NC...

...of course, that might be because Purdue will never win one in football. So I have to. 
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #295 on: March 01, 2021, 06:23:53 PM »
same, hopefully not same

I hope the Huskers can somehow find past glory and at least have a shot at a title, but if not, oh well, it was fun while it lasted
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #296 on: March 01, 2021, 09:08:40 PM »
I can as to my team.  It's other teams where I struggle.  I'm way more likely to watch a February game between two decent teams (like Oklahoma-Oklahoma State tonight) than a comparable football game in November.
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #297 on: March 02, 2021, 04:37:17 AM »
We all gripe and debate the playoff committee simply seeding 4 teams....(yeah, I know they rank more, but only 4 matter now), but the basketball committee is tasked with ranking 68 teams accurately.  They're far more likely to rank some teams poorly, right?  

Your tournament draw is heavily reliant on a committee ranking 68 teams accurately.....it's just not feasible.  In a region with the weakest 1-seed, the 2,3,and 4 are salivating at their odds of getting to the final 4.  
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Anyway, besides that point, it's all about the sliding scale of entertainment vs competition - as I've said many times.  Basketball skews far on the entertainment side and football towards the competition side, but is trending towards learning more entertainment.  If/when the playoff expands, it'll inch further over towards entertainment.
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #298 on: March 02, 2021, 07:52:20 AM »
Quote from: ELA on March 01, 2021, 09:08:40 PM
I can as to my team.  It's other teams where I struggle.  I'm way more likely to watch a February game between two decent teams (like Oklahoma-Oklahoma State tonight) than a comparable football game in November.
Still gotta go grid iron
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #299 on: March 02, 2021, 09:11:13 AM »
Quote from: ELA on March 01, 2021, 09:08:40 PM
I can as to my team.  It's other teams where I struggle.  I'm way more likely to watch a February game between two decent teams (like Oklahoma-Oklahoma State tonight) than a comparable football game in November.

My brain doesn't understand this.  
And that's okay.
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« Reply #300 on: March 02, 2021, 11:37:27 AM »
I understand it completely.

Sparty has much more interest in hoops than the gridiron, because of much more success, therefore interest
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #301 on: March 02, 2021, 12:16:05 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 02, 2021, 11:37:27 AM
I understand it completely.

Sparty has much more interest in hoops than the gridiron, because of much more success, therefore interest
No.  Just that a game between a pair of 7-3 teams has no bearing on anything.  If MSU is one of those teams, then sure.  But if it's a Big XII game, meh.  I'm not sure what the perfect answer is.  I'm not saying I don't get the opposing view point, the counter is that a game between two top 5 teams in extremely meaningful in football, and in basketball is arguably less important than a game between two bubble teams.
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #302 on: March 02, 2021, 12:19:26 PM »
I guess I understand it if it's a bout the bubble and what matchups there might be on a bracket

all my brackets get busted

in my view, a game between two 7-3 football teams might decide bowl pairings

kinda the same thing, only different
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« Reply #303 on: March 02, 2021, 12:27:46 PM »
Quote from: ELA on March 02, 2021, 12:16:05 PM
No.  Just that a game between a pair of 7-3 teams has no bearing on anything.  If MSU is one of those teams, then sure.  But if it's a Big XII game, meh.  I'm not sure what the perfect answer is.  I'm not saying I don't get the opposing view point, the counter is that a game between two top 5 teams in extremely meaningful in football, and in basketball is inarguably less important than a game between two bubble teams.
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #304 on: March 02, 2021, 12:36:39 PM »
I think for me it's that I just don't care very much about the "national championship" chase. 

I like football. I watch Purdue whenever they're on. On a typical Saturday outside of the Purdue game, I'll generally have the TV on to whatever game most interests me, but that's often amongst whatever else I'm doing--just as it is on Sunday with the NFL games. 

But do I really care all that much about which configuration of OSU/Alabama/Clemson and a few other helmets manages to make that CFP each year? Nah. Can I stomach the ENDLESS coverage on ESPN from early October on that deals only with who will make the CFP... It bores the piss out of me. 

This is, of course, because my team is irrelevant to the NC chase except for our propensity to act as spoiler for the Buckeyes. As I've said before, Purdue would get in at 13-0, but Purdue will never be 13-0. Purdue could get in at 12-1 and conference champion, but if there were 4 other 1-loss or better teams (conference champion or not), Purdue will always get the short end of that stick by the committee. So... Why should I worry about it? 

Purdue has never won the NCAA tournament, and it's been 40 years since we made the Final Four. But I believe we can do both, so I actually DO spend time thinking about it. 
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #305 on: March 02, 2021, 01:17:47 PM »
I always respected PU in my brackets under Keady.  Even if they were 19-13 or something like that, I knew they'd be a sonofabitch to beat.
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #306 on: March 02, 2021, 02:26:31 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 02, 2021, 12:19:26 PM
in my view, a game between two 7-3 football teams might decide bowl pairings
Except at best, it determines a matchup for an exhibition game, at worst (at most of the time) it doesn't because bowl selections are based on tv draws, fan base sizes and no repeat rules.
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Re: Championship Week (and Other Things)
« Reply #307 on: March 02, 2021, 02:36:11 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 02, 2021, 01:17:47 PM
I always respected PU in my brackets under Keady.  Even if they were 19-13 or something like that, I knew they'd be a sonofabitch to beat.
That's the opposite of Purdue's MO.  They've had WAY more success than most casual fans would think, simply because they almost always underperform in the tournament.

Since Keady got there (80-81), Purdue was 6-17 against top 6 seeds (despite being the higher seeded team in until Carsen Edwards put them on his back)

Keady himself lost 8 of his first 9 games against top 6 seeds, despite being the higher seeded team in all but 1 of them.

From 1984-96, Purdue won the Big Ten title in 6 out of 13 years...and made it out of the first weekend twice.
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