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« Reply #882 on: Today at 02:04:49 PM »
he rarely makes questionable calls or mistakes during the game
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« Reply #883 on: Today at 02:11:26 PM »
He worked under Saban for 4 seasons and played for his father at WVU. That'll help prep a coach so long as the coach is willing to get prepped.
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« Reply #884 on: Today at 02:55:54 PM »
A lot of coaches worked with Saban, and some have done pretty well, but I don't know of any others who have turned around a program like Cignetti.

Smart inherited a solid program with a great recruiting territory, he was sort of gifted a jewel that needed a bit of polishing.
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« Reply #885 on: Today at 02:58:07 PM »
Not everyone is a workaholic and committed to every detail like Saban was.

Cignetti most certainly is that.
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« Reply #886 on: Today at 03:01:51 PM »
The SEC wasn't considered THE best just because of the 7 consecutive NCs by 4 different schools and then 6 out of 8 NCs by 3 different schools, although that would have been enough.
But add to that the SEC's bowl record each year, the best overall win% by conference each year, the most players drafted each year, the most 1st round drafted each year, and annually having HALF the top 12 of recruiting rankings each year.  

All of that combined made any argument against it silly enough to laugh off.  Now, because the SEC hasn't had the NC for 3 years now and 1 bad bowl record year, it's suddenly down.  
Maybe.
But check all the other stuff.  And I no longer believe bowl record matters at all, given that the top-echelon talent isn't participation anymore, by and large.  So it if it should not count against a conference (the SEC this past year), nor should it count for a conference (going forward).
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« Reply #887 on: Today at 03:05:17 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 02:55:54 PM
A lot of coaches worked with Saban, and some have done pretty well, but I don't know of any others who have turned around a program like Cignetti.

Smart inherited a solid program with a great recruiting territory, he was sort of gifted a jewel that needed a bit of polishing.
You of all people should know that bit of polishing is the hardest part.  Ask Mark Richt.  Ask the Tampa Bay Bucs (first SB win).  Ask Nebraska.  Ask Penn St.  Hell, ask anyone wearing green and yellow (Oregon).  

From 'really good, yeah but - almost' to back-to-back national champions.  That's one helluva jewel polish.
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Re: CFP Thread
« Reply #888 on: Today at 03:06:57 PM »
I suspect taking the worst program in football history to an NC in two years would be tougher than lifting up a program on the last step to the final step.

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« Reply #889 on: Today at 03:09:24 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 03:06:57 PM
I suspect taking the worst program in football history to an NC in two years would be tougher than lifting up a program on the last step to the final step.


I didn't know it was either/or.  They're both incredibly difficult.  But yes, Cigneti's is unprecedented. 
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Re: CFP Thread
« Reply #890 on: Today at 03:18:56 PM »
I stated my OPINION that Cignetti turned a program around like no other Saban accolytes.  I think that's pretty clear.

Smart didn't turn a program around.
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