CFP Thread

[SFBadger96]

Serious question: what happened in the second half between Oregon and JMU? I stopped paying attention at the half, but was surprised by the final score. Did JMU actually make a run, or was Oregon playing not to get injured before a real game?

[CatsbyAZ]

We're in year 22 of Miami never winning the ACC. 

In that time, Wake Forest won it.  GA Tech won it.  Duke just won it.  VA Tech won it 4 times.  Pitt won it.
And that's omitting FSU and Clemson owning it over and over.

For all the SEC fans that believe their conference is rigged toward making sure Alabama or Georgia is propped up, I point to the ACC for football that certainly isn't rigged. This year you had Miami, Clemson, and Florida St in the Top 15 to start the season, and somehow the conference championship ends up between Duke and Virginia. Basketball conference it is.

[medinabuckeye1]

How about we let the "best" be determined by winning games instead of poindexters voting for them?

So the Little Giants can get in.  

Seriously Max, I have toddlers who have a better grasp on logic than you do.  

It is charity for crappy conferences.  

Here is a game for you:  OM 45, Tulane 10.  

Here is another:  Louisville by 14 over JMU.  

It isn't "poindexters", everyone with a grasp on reality already knew that Tulane and JMU were not on Texas/Notre Dame's level because we already saw what happened when they tried.  Tulane got smoked by the 5th (ish) best team in the SEC and JMU lost by two TD's to an ACC team that didn't even tie for the ACCCG slot.  

Only toddlers and Max aren't smart enough to understand this.  

[SFBadger96]

I'm reasonably confident that TCU and Boise State's success in bowl games against the big boys (including my Badgers, unfortunately, but also true kings like Oklahoma) set the table for the argument that they shouldn't be left out. And as noted above, it isn't as though P4 teams competing in the playoffs eliminated blowouts. Blowouts happen for a bunch of different reasons, and they happen to P4 teams, too.

I'm not opposed to giving the littles a chance, but I think the system should make them prove themselves in a more meaningful way. In addition to the current requirements, mandatory win against a P4 team during the regular season, conference champion, and top 15 ranking? I think that would be enough. And if there were more than one, I would make those two teams play in.

[MaximumSam]

So the Little Giants can get in. 

Seriously Max, I have toddlers who have a better grasp on logic than you do. 

It is charity for crappy conferences. 

Here is a game for you:  OM 45, Tulane 10. 

Here is another:  Louisville by 14 over JMU. 

It isn't "poindexters", everyone with a grasp on reality already knew that Tulane and JMU were not on Texas/Notre Dame's level because we already saw what happened when they tried.  Tulane got smoked by the 5th (ish) best team in the SEC and JMU lost by two TD's to an ACC team that didn't even tie for the ACCCG slot. 

Only toddlers and Max aren't smart enough to understand this. 

Well hey, like a toddler, you both complain about the regular season not mattering and complain that the regular season matters too much. A masterclass in wanting it both ways, like the most annoying toddler.

[medinabuckeye1]

Well hey, like a toddler, you both complain about the regular season not mattering and complain that the regular season matters too much. A masterclass in wanting it both ways, like the most annoying toddler.

Are you really this stupid or are you being purposely obtuse?

I was against expansion because I wanted the regular season games to matter but my side lost. Expansion is a done deal. The 12 team CFP isn't going away. 

Now that we are here I'd like to see the 12 best teams rather than letting in a bunch of crappy tallest midgets who don't belong. 

[Brutus Buckeye]

There's 10 FBS conference, and only the top 5 champions get a spot. The bottom 5 are left out. 

[MaximumSam]

Are you really this stupid or are you being purposely obtuse?

I was against expansion because I wanted the regular season games to matter but my side lost. Expansion is a done deal. The 12 team CFP isn't going away.

Now that we are here I'd like to see the 12 best teams rather than letting in a bunch of crappy tallest midgets who don't belong.

I'm disappointed in our general education on economics, is what I am. There are no solutions, only tradeoffs. 

• I am a fan of Notre Dame and generally thought they deserved to be in over Alabama. My side lost, because they lost coin flip games to playoff teams and didn't play as strong a schedule as Bama. Under a "12 best teams" model, the TAMU-ND game and Miami-ND game are completely irrelevant to anything but seeding. Under the current system, they were critical games.
• The "G5" is half of football. Having a path for one of them to make the playoffs gives those games weight. Getting rid of that makes a lot of those games meaningless, too. 
• We already have a problem with meaningless games because of the system. Indiana-OSU this year. OSU-Michigan last year, just speaking for a team I know well. Getting rid of conference champions and the G5 just exacerbates that.
• Finally, on a personal note, you are too old to be calling people names when they disagree with you on something like college football playoff formats.

[bayareabadger]

So the Little Giants can get in. 

Seriously Max, I have toddlers who have a better grasp on logic than you do. 

It is charity for crappy conferences. 

Here is a game for you:  OM 45, Tulane 10. 

Here is another:  Louisville by 14 over JMU. 

It isn't "poindexters", everyone with a grasp on reality already knew that Tulane and JMU were not on Texas/Notre Dame's level because we already saw what happened when they tried.  Tulane got smoked by the 5th (ish) best team in the SEC and JMU lost by two TD's to an ACC team that didn't even tie for the ACCCG slot. 

Only toddlers and Max aren't smart enough to understand this. 

I do understand this grave injustice profoundly chaps your backside.

[847badgerfan]

The G5 took Texas' spot.

[ManHawk]

I think the CFP will eventually expand to 16 to 24 teams,  which will make the G-level team or teams more tolerable as part of the field.

In this year's case,  maybe a 17-team or 18-team field would have worked.  If there was 17 teams total,  then Notre Dame, BYU, Texas, Vandy and Utah would have been added to the field,  and JMU and Tulane could have essentially played a play-in game the week of Army-Navy game and the winner would play at Indiana.  If you go with 18 teams,  you could add USC and have Utah and USC essentially play another play-in game and the winner could play at Ohio St.

Of course,  if you wanted to limit to only THE Best teams,  you really only need 4 teams this year.  Indiana,  Ohio St,  Georgia and Texas Tech.  In other years,  you might need as many as Ten teams.  But this year really you only have 4 teams that "deserve" a shot.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Whoever went from 4 to 12 is a colossal, near-sighted money-grabbing dipshit.

[jgvol]

The Notre Dame freeze out begins??


https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/notre-dame-vs-usc-rivalry-hiatus-big-ten/ 

[bayareabadger]

Always thought eight was a bit better than 12 for that step. 

If we had the same results next year, Duke and ND would be in. Will be interesting if we get to a point where the insistence on “best” renders conference titles super meaningless. Lotta folks seem to want that.