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Topic: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State

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Mdot21

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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #294 on: January 12, 2021, 04:43:26 PM »
Fields didn't make excuses,he has the tools and throws a beautiful deep ball.That was another thing being banged up hamstrung the game plan,hopefully he can correct his reads on secondary recievers moving forward.Hope he stays.
I think there’s no shot Fields stays. He’s a top 5 pick imo. If Jets don’t take him at #2 someone will trade up to get him imo. If no does, he doesn’t get past Atlanta at 4. Matt Ryan is getting up there in age, new coach, new system- think it’d just be too tempting not to take him. 

If Elway is smart he’ll try to move up from #9 to land Fields.

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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #295 on: January 12, 2021, 04:47:35 PM »
The Jets and Eagles are nuts,I wouldn't throw the towel in on either Wentz or Darnold
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #296 on: January 12, 2021, 05:12:06 PM »
heard Matt Ryan was retiring

maybe heard wrong?
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #297 on: January 12, 2021, 05:12:52 PM »
nah, osu was in nickle and had a saftey walked up on one of the slot guys. single high, man outside, zone under. 1 safety for center deep protect, outside dbs are man, lbs and other safety are zone under high safety. before play, the other safety is inching up to prevent the flat routes and give man look.

the mlb sees smitty running the seam and drops under him immediately. the safety over top is supposed to step up and bracket him but just keeps going deep and leave a huge whole. the outside db's have decent coverage.

starts about 5:25 mark. if you pause at about 5:58 mark, you can see the safety supposed to step up and take smitty from the lb. but he keeps dropping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRYEF_y_t_U

Yes. I have the same vid- only a different narrative. “ sark makes them break the rules of their own coverage”.  We are splitting hairs now.

with the weight of trips to the left- he knew the single high would incline a step or 2 that way.  Smith was passing Borland almost immediately ( he didn’t drop far enough to begin with)
The single high safety is automatically cooked at that point because Smith can “ make him  wrong” no matter what he does.  If he brackets, Smith cuts left on a corner post. If he doesn’t, which he didn’t, Smith just runs past Borland and gets the ball. Easy pitch and catch. 
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #298 on: January 12, 2021, 05:27:30 PM »
The Jets and Eagles are nuts,I wouldn't throw the towel in on either Wentz or Darnold
I would. Wentz is unfixable- he’s been a turnover machine his entire career. Same with Darnold. They are both averagely talented at best as pure passers- and I would’ve never used a 1st rd pick on either.

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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #299 on: January 12, 2021, 05:30:01 PM »
OSU thought they could do the same to Bama that they did to Clemson- stop the run and make them somewhat one dimensional.  They did “ limit” Harris to 79 yards on 22 carries (3.6 per).
When I read the stats I really did a double-take on this.  It sure didn't feel like Harris only had 3.6 ypc.  I also noticed what you pointed out here:
Teague is a gasher , straight ahead. He did fairly well too- more YPC than Najee in fact. 
The way it felt watching the game I would never have guessed that Teague had more ypc than Harris, never but there it is:
  • Teague:  15 carries, 65 yards, 4.3 ypc, 2TD, 29 long
  • Harris:  22 carries, 79 yards, 3.6 ypc, 2TD, 13 long
The difference though, and where Sermon would have done much better is in receptions out of the backfield:
  • Teague:  1 catch, 1 yard, 1 ypc, 0TD, 1 long
  • Harris:  7 catches, 79 yards, 11.3 ypc, 1TD, 26 long

Teague had as many rushing TD's, almost as many rushing yards, and more yards per carry than Harris but Harris did as much damage on receptions as he did on carries.  Teague had one catch for one yard.  

Another thing I'll point out is the difference one carry makes.  To their credit, the Buckeye Defense prevented long runs.  As noted above, Harris' long was only 13 yards.  Take away Teague's and Harris' longest run and here is what is left:
  • Teague:  14 carries, 36 yards, 2.6ypc
  • Harris:  21 carries, 66 yards, 3.1 ypc
Teague had one nice long run and the rest of his carries were pretty unimpressive.  Harris was super consistent.  He didn't gash tOSU with long runs but he hit right about 3 yards almost every time they gave him the ball.  

Not that any of the above mattered.  Really, Ohio State ran better than Bama.  Bama had 10 more yards (157-147) but it took them nine more attempts.  Ohio State had and equal number of rushing TD's (2 each), more ypc (5.1 vs 4.1), and two runs longer than anything Bama had (Fields' 33 and Teague's 29).  It didn't matter because Bama's passing attack was unstoppable.  Mac Jones was 36/45 for 464 yards.  DeVonta Smith had more yards receiving than the entire Ohio State team (215-194) and he did it all in the first half.  Ohio State's leading receiver had 69 yards, that was only fourth best in the game behind:
  • 215 Smith
  • 81 Metchie
  • 79 Harris

With Sermon in the game, I think the Buckeyes might have been able to keep up a little longer.  As it was, it didn't get out of hand until right before halftime when Bama took at 18 point lead.  Maybe with Sermon the Buckeyes score a couple more TD's and it is 35-31 at halftime instead of 35-17 (and basically over) but I don't think it would matter.  As unstoppable as Bama's offense was, eventually that dam was going to break.  




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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #300 on: January 12, 2021, 05:39:15 PM »
That’s what makes Najee so special- he can block and run routes & catch just as well as he can run it. 

He’s one of the most impressive all-around big backs I’ve ever seen. He brings a lot to the table in pass pro and as a receiver.

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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #301 on: January 12, 2021, 05:47:56 PM »
I would. Wentz is unfixable- he’s been a turnover machine his entire career. Same with Darnold. They are both averagely talented at best as pure passers- and I would’ve never used a 1st rd pick on either.
Disagree,Philly is growing long in the tooth.He was great as a rookie before he got hurt surprised the shit out of everyone.And the Jets have been a one legged man in an ass kicking contest for a while.They need to fix everything around him.They've had Pennington,Sanchez,Geno Smith,Fitzpatrick - they break these guys.Look what the Dolphins did in just two seasons,like the Rams 2 seasons before
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #302 on: January 12, 2021, 05:52:06 PM »

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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #303 on: January 12, 2021, 05:54:13 PM »
That’s what makes Najee so special- he can block and run routes & catch just as well as he can run it.

He’s one of the most impressive all-around big backs I’ve ever seen. He brings a lot to the table in pass pro and as a receiver.
made this comment on another site to someone who said it'd be a mistake to take him early in draft.

No way, dude is perfect for NFL. Finds hard yards on bad plays, great vision and cutback, doesn't dance, great pass protection and is legit threat as receiver out of backfield. Strong, dependable, good speed and athleticism, great size, workhorse back that can contribute to the passing game either in protection or receiving threat. He is tailor made for NFL.

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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #304 on: January 12, 2021, 06:19:01 PM »
isu returns like 20 starters. they should have a banner year.
Yeah, but ISU's 20 returning starters would be 2nd or 3rd string at Bama/OSU/Clemson, so while the returning talent may set them up well in the B12, it won't exactly turn them into legitimate playoff material even if they make the field. 

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« Reply #305 on: January 12, 2021, 06:19:37 PM »
made this comment on another site to someone who said it'd be a mistake to take him early in draft.

No way, dude is perfect for NFL. Finds hard yards on bad plays, great vision and cutback, doesn't dance, great pass protection and is legit threat as receiver out of backfield. Strong, dependable, good speed and athleticism, great size, workhorse back that can contribute to the passing game either in protection or receiving threat. He is tailor made for NFL.
He is exactly what every NFL team is looking for in a RB these days. You have to be able to block and catch in todays NFL. Days of lining up in I-formation and just carrying the rock 30 times a game are over. I'd be shocked if he's not a mid-to-late 1st rd pick. Steelers at 24 would be a great fit.

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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #306 on: January 12, 2021, 06:22:35 PM »
They have a lot of free agents this offseason evidently so not sure what their targets are or will be.I hope they swng and miss on all of them
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Re: CFP NCG, #1 Bama vs #11 Ohio State
« Reply #307 on: January 12, 2021, 06:25:00 PM »
They have a lot of free agents this offseason evidently so not sure what their targets are or will be.I hope they swng and miss on all of them
They need to upgrade their QB and RB positions asap. Big Ben is washed- his 500 yards were all empty calories. Connor is exactly what he's always been- a back-up RB. Why they thought he'd be able to replace an elite back like Bell- beyond me. 

 

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