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Topic: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #98 on: July 24, 2024, 06:13:44 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on July 24, 2024, 06:10:44 PM
The 1 seed doesn't want to face Bama in the semis either.

The 1 seed would prefer that Bama slot it at 2 seed, OkSU at 3, and that they face the winner of Wisconsin/USCe in the quarters and the winner of Oregon/Boise in the semis.

But here we go... The structure makes the 1 seed's semifinal matchup arguably MUCH tougher than straight ranking driving the seed, because the 5 seed will often be on the same talent/ranking level as the 2/3 seed, so they want to avoid them as long as possible.
I don't think many 1 seeds attain that by worrying about who to avoid.
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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #99 on: July 24, 2024, 06:25:18 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on July 24, 2024, 11:38:52 AM
Same as @FearlessF , I immediately thought of T Boone Pickens when I read this.  I think it IS a possibility.  Maybe some mega-billionaire is a fan/alum of the University of Wyoming.  We *COULD* see the Wyoming Cowboys (I think they are the Cowboys) competing with the blue bloods for talent. 
Meet David Miller, SMU's billionaire alum who spearheaded the Mustangs' return to big-time college football

Miller led the charge in raising funds to ensure the SMU football program would be among the elite once again

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/meet-david-miller-smus-billionaire-alum-who-spearheaded-the-mustangs-return-to-big-time-college-football/


If not for Miller riding in on a Mustang to the rescue, SMU wouldn't be part of the anointed (the 68 Power Four conference schools that hold the key to whatever the sport looks like in the future).

All it took was $270 million. That's the cumulative amount SMU is raising to fund its athletic program for the next nine years in the ACC. Last year, the school agreed to join the conference for … nothing; no media rights revenue will be distributed to SMU. The Mustangs will get ACC bowl and NCAA Tournament payouts, but beyond that, they are basically playing on their dime.

Miller, 73, knows how to raise money. The billionaire founded EnCap Investments, a powerful oil and gas private equity firm. Twenty years ago, he was appointed to the National Petroleum Council and became an advisor to the Secretary of Energy. The 6-foot-8 Miller had been involved with the university almost from the time he picked up a basketball playing for Bob Prewitt in 1969. He was part of a Southwest Conference championship team in 1972.


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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #100 on: July 24, 2024, 06:27:48 PM »
SMU may have used a $270 million life raft just to find safety on the Titanic, lol.
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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #101 on: July 24, 2024, 06:37:48 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 24, 2024, 06:11:09 PM
Please clarify this.  I'm worried it's the dumbest thing I've ever read.
4 teams don't have to play any games to get to the quarterfinal.
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If you meant through the quarterfinals, the 1 seed, playing the 8/9 winner, had an easier path, and you don't even need to bother with any math for that.
Sorry. You're correct. I meant the best path to the semifinals. My mistake. 
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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #102 on: July 24, 2024, 06:42:13 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 24, 2024, 06:13:44 PM
I don't think many 1 seeds attain that by worrying about who to avoid.
Of course not. But if we had a 14-team playoff in 2011, I'm pretty sure LSU would rather face the Oregon/Boise winner than Bama in the semis.

Although, if it were straight seeding, it would [likely] be a matchup against the Stanford/Oregon winner in the semis, who were #4 and #6 in the rankings. 
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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #103 on: July 24, 2024, 06:48:44 PM »
The PAC was weird, I believe Stanford/Oregon had 2 instances of one winning the PAC with one more loss than the other had.

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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #104 on: July 26, 2024, 11:10:09 AM »
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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #105 on: July 26, 2024, 03:59:59 PM »
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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #106 on: July 26, 2024, 04:01:56 PM »
It's his second offense, so I expect something fairly public to happen.

The other things I've heard resulted from NIL.  The kids buy these Dodge Chargers and then feel the need for speed and get caught, or on one case killed.
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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #107 on: July 26, 2024, 08:08:15 PM »
I doubt the Big 12 champ will have 3 losses most years because

1.  They won't have any losses to Texas or Oklahoma unless they play in Non-conference.

2.  The CCG Wil contain the 2 best teams in a 16 team conference

3.  They will be the winner of the Big 12 CCG.

So going forward I would guess the Big 12 champ will be at least 11-2 and in most years 12-1 or 13-0.
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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #108 on: July 26, 2024, 10:30:51 PM »
Well, this year there's like a 6-way favorite for the predicted conference champ this year.  Imo, the champ is as likely to have 4 losses as 1 or 0.
Certain program(s) would rise to the top over time, if the college football landscape were to remain static, but that's not happening.  The moment an Okie St or K-State strings together a couple of top seasons, FSU or Clemson or somebody will come in an wreck everything for them.
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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #109 on: July 26, 2024, 10:35:26 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on July 26, 2024, 08:08:15 PM
I doubt the Big 12 champ will have 3 losses most years because

1.  They won't have any losses to Texas or Oklahoma unless they play in Non-conference.

2.  The CCG Wil contain the 2 best teams in a 16 team conference

3.  They will be the winner of the Big 12 CCG.

So going forward I would guess the Big 12 champ will be at least 11-2 and in most years 12-1 or 13-0.
Yeah, could be. But my larger point is under this current format the number 4 seed will rarely be considered a top 4 team. The 5 seed will be the beneficiary of that.
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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #110 on: July 26, 2024, 10:38:52 PM »
In addition, many years the 12 seed will not be considered a top 12 team (and possibly top 20 or 25). Again, the 5 seed benefits from that.
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Re: CFP Format- The Best 5 seeds in Recorded History?
« Reply #111 on: July 26, 2024, 10:56:05 PM »
Why not the 12 seed?
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